Quote Originally Posted by gagged_Louise View Post
man-indúced climate change are real and to be reckoned with is, I think, firmly anchored both in people's minds and in serious political and scientific debate.
That may be the case. But that doesn't make man-induced climate change true. Politically it's being used to take peoples atention off the serious issues. In USA, Bush just laughed at it until now. Before he wanted all atention on the war in Iraq, now he doesn't. Shwartzeneger buys a enviromentaly friendly car.

In Sweden we've got masses of enviromental reforms that are total bullshit, not based on any research what so ever. We have one of the biggest and most effictive paper industries in the world. Why are we of all countries recycling paper? It makes no sense. It doesn't save trees, carbon emisions, money or peoples time. Pure political garbage from day one.

We know nickel metal cadmium batteries are important not to throw in the garbage, and collect responsibly. Which was why we started to recycle bateries. But those hardly exist any more. Now all we have are nickel metal hydride batteries. Are those enviromentaly hazardous? I don't know. I haven't heard anything that would indicate it. Nobody seems bothered finding out. I can't find any information on it anywhere.

Recycling is expensive, (beside using a lot of fossil fuels in the collecting). If we can't justify it we shouldn't do it, right?

Politically enviromentalism is mostly just down to rhetoric. The polititians own opinions aren't really important are they? It's about winning, right? Emotionally people seem to be into it because they seem to either like feeling guility about stuff or like hating who ever is worse than them, (ie another type of elitism/snobism). Scientists opinions seem to be irrelevant.