A strong correlation. We know the "global warming effect" exists, greenhouse gases are responsible for it. If we did not pump a lot of that stuff into the atmosphere that "natural warming" wouldnt happen. The ozon layer is an entirely different problem. Again, the atmosphere is very thin, contratry to what we would like to believe. To say we have no impact after pumping crap for decades into the air in the volumes of tons, is just plain denial.

It equals out to, we don't impact the water quality by pumping waste into rivers, we dont influence wildlife by paving roads across the planet and that we dont do a very long list of awful things because of all the garbage we are mostly dumping in the worst possible ways imaginable. Causality is not an excuse to deny whats right in front of your face.

Considerering the majority of scientists (everyone who is not paid by the big companies that are currently polluting the world like crazy or simply getting richer by the day from it) agree that CO2 is the cause and that humanity is responsible for it, what do you say to something like that? I mean sure, they change their minds, but thats just good thinking. You test, you study and if you get different results or insights, you change your mind to reflect what you learned. If you have ever had any touching expierences with academia, you will know its almost impossible to get those guys to agree on anything. That they can agree on something like that is either a miracle or simply a pretty gruesome truth.

Gore's electrical bill is no argument, just a fact. Want more dirt? He flies all over the world constantly, and flying is one of the worst things you can do to the enviornment. He ain't a saint, but he tries to bring the message out into the masses, thats more than most people do.

I love that i have some people here who totally disagree A good discussion is always worth a lot. What i wonder though, is what the motivation is. Like, say it doesnt even matter anymore who started the ball, its rolling and getting worse, more ice is melting, gulf stream could stall, sea levels will rise (the question is only how fast, not if), weather gets more extreme (more floods, more droughts), we have record plus and minus temperatures all over and there is not really anything we can do to completely stop it, as it feeds on itself. So what exactly do you guys think in all this? Like should we sit back and enjoy ourselves until the planet is all in the toilet and then blow our brains out? Whats the plan? Or what is your plan?