Gay marriage issue

[jeanne]

But for most of the last 6 years I have been told if I crticize the people trying to destroy that country (Bush and Cheney, et. al.) I hate America. And it just isnot true. I believe most peoplein our country want to uphold the constitution but some very ruthless, criminal people are trying to undermine those ideals.

I can only pray and hope that '08 brings a much needed change.

I'm with you here - there's just no logic to their argument. How does being against the war (or whatever squirrelly term they're using today for it) mean I don't support the troops? There's no direct cause/effect relationship there, but I'm accused of it. I have friends and relatives in the military - my father did 20 years in - and have nothing but respect and admiration for those who choose that path, whatever their reasons. But, I'm disgusted by the waste of ideals, money, lives that our government is indulging itself in (yes, I mean indulging).

I doubt there's enough fags to motivate big business being against it. And don't forget the gays in the big business, they want their rights to. I think this is one more of the arguments that don't hold up under closer scrutiny. .

Tom - actually this comment goes to your original question of wanting to understand how/why gay marriage is a problem. No matter what you see in the media, being a gay man in America is still a problem. (Not so much for gay women.) I couldn't venture to guess the percentage of gay men who are still in the closet, but I'm sure it is large. Remember too, large companies, even if headed by an openly gay man, still have to answer to stockholders, a board of directors and the media. Given the estimate that 10% of men are gay (is that still the number - I'm not sure) that leaves 90% that aren't. And frankly - the almighty dollar rules. So when a company talks about adding millions of dollars to the cost of doing business, there is a large group of people who are financially invested in not allowing that to happen. On top of all that - the conservative media would tear them apart. There's nothing more scary to a CEO than hearing phrases like "godless heathen" or "counter to the ideals this country was founded on" - another completely illogical argument - attached to his company, pushing the value of their stock (and his stock options - don't forget his own greed) down.

OOOO, look that that. *points* sexual harrasment. You all saw it, didn't you? help help. I'm being repressed.

*shakes head* Poor Tom... tessa and I are simply appreciating our foreign brother and fostering a better relationship with the rest of the world. Why, we're practically goodwill ambassadors!