Not to belabor the point, but while I agree with some of the above, each party in a relationship has to do more than necessary, yes. I believe Mysc and Xanthos are doing this and I still don't see that the statement that "subs seek to please rather than be pleased" is saying that BOTH parties need to do more than necessary.
And outside of scenes it is even of more importance to be equally concerned with each other's needs and pleasing the other partner, IMHO. SO I was thinking of both within and out of scenes.
And unfortunately I am concerned when I am concerned, can't really do anything about that, whether there is need or not.![]()