Point to any instance anywhere where I condoned anyone disrespecting anyone and I will back down on this issue.
My point, and I believe Logic's also, was that people are imperfect. Mishka particularly has trouble remembering things so I am sensitive on this issue. I discuss it with her when she forgets something, but do not assume that if she does it more than once that it is because she is being deliberately disobedient. Logic's initial comment was about accidental disobedience, and you chimed in with the opinion that it does not exists, that repeated instances of forgetting things is deliberate.
That is not the case, and it does not just mean simple forgetting part of a larger task. And would not forgetting to make the bed after living a whole life of not doing so fall into that category anyway? That of the myraid individual tasks of keeping house.
As I stated, this thread is meant to discuss cum restriction as training, and although it expanding to include cum restriction as a punishment is not beyond the scope of the thread, this discussion about different philosophies of training and punishment is way beyond the original inten. That does not mean I am not willing to discuss it, but I do think we are going past the intent of Mishka when she started the thread. And, as she is on vacation, I am speaking up for her.