It sounds to me like Gloria Brame doesn't know her ass from a hole in the ground and that Red is the one that should be writing about Daddy/girl relationships and adolescentilism. I had never understood that part of the lifestyle very well until Red described it the way she lives it. I was always just a tad uncomfortable with the Daddy thing. I guess I had that ignorant "incest" opinion about it. Now I am much better educated. Thanks Red, and it does my heart good to see you so happy. **HUG** ~blizz~