Animal Rights?

[Thorne]

Good point. I usually think about furs in terms of trapping, which I don't care for... but farm-raised. Yeah. It's the same as eating meat.


Edit: And then this question popped into my mind...

So... What if you raise the dog specifically to be fought? Then why not for entertainment. Where do you draw the line? What defines cruel and unnecessary?

Animals raised for their fur or meat are, we would hope, killed as humanely as possible, not made to suffer through long hours of vicious biting and clawing.
But if you are going to stop raising animals for entertainment, what about race horses? They are bred for one purpose, so humans can gamble and be entertained. Even worse, what about circus animals? There are many animals which are treated poorly, if not inhumanely, by mankind. This doesn't necessarily imply that they should have "rights." It only underscores man's inhumanity.

[Ozme52]

Animals raised for their fur or meat are, we would hope, killed as humanely as possible, not made to suffer through long hours of vicious biting and clawing.
But if you are going to stop raising animals for entertainment, what about race horses? They are bred for one purpose, so humans can gamble and be entertained. Even worse, what about circus animals? There are many animals which are treated poorly, if not inhumanely, by mankind. This doesn't necessarily imply that they should have "rights." It only underscores man's inhumanity.

I happen to agree. I don't care much for horse racing for a number of issues. This is about where you draw the line. How to know what the animal would "do" if it had a choice. We anthropomorphize a lot... say that horses love to run. That's bullshit of course. They're bred to run... originally from predators. What about using dogs to help us hunt? Is it mutilation to spay and neuter dogs and cats? There are so many nuances and issues that the topic can easily snowball.

LOL, it even got a comment about terrorists and prisoner interrogations. (Not a laughing matter.... just that it occured in this thread.)