...I don't know if shame is necessarily a good indicator. After coming down I can feel shameful about how wanton and needy I was, but I don't think it means it was bad...
That's what I'm wondering about lily, if it's not bad then why the shame? And yes, I was thinking that it might be an idication of being bad?
Could be just what we've socially been programmed to and getting past
Truly I'm not far enough along to know yet I think.