Waterboarding

[denuseri]

i so agree with you on this one MMI,,nice points too, i just think its a bad sign of the devalueing of our ethical compass that we obviously engadge as a country in theses activities, smh,, wtf ever happened to the geniva convention? My dad never liked to talk about being tortured when he was a pow, but every so often an old buddy of his from the corps would drop by and i would hear them talking in thier gruff voices through the wall of our living room where i had snuck off too to spy on em, and some of it was just terrible, but the real eye opener, was going to spokane at Fairchild AFB with my Husband/Master and taking a tour of the resisitance training corse at the survival school annex where he used to teach, and phewie,, the things they said where done to american pow's by the vietmanese and koreans was incredible,, i mean heck the nazis treated pows better,, but anyway i digress, our determination to be a leader in world politics, which we kinda took on after WW2 may partlly out of nessesity absolutly requires that We Set the Example,, that we dont do certian things like torture ,just becuz the other guy did etc,, we used to set that example too, now days we have fallen woefully short.

[Venom]

...i mean heck the nazis treated pows better

Well, but you (the USA) treated pows better, too. Of course, the US had tortured certain axis prisoners during and even after WWII. But the normal soldiers didn't go to places like Guantanamo Bay. A father's friend narrated of the "Fritz-Ritz", the US-camps for German POW's. They even were free to celebrate the "Führergeburtstag" (Birthday of Hitler, 20th of April).