i dunno. MMI and Master are not disagreeing here. my head is spinning.

i would not allow my 12 year old girl or boy to be photographed in this manner...to go in and pose naked for photos. When we were in Germany, many little girls ran around naked at the pool, until they got a bit closer to puberty, and then they were told to wear more. i see this as nature, beautiful babies...no big deal, they should be able to be free sometime before real life starts kicking them.

The way children are allowed to dress these days is similar to the "artwork" mentioned here. Go to your local airport and watch vacationers board the planes. Watch the dads and moms who are allowing their daughters to wear clothing that is inappropriate...who needs kiddy porn when you have the real thing at the airport? Skirts so high that you can see their butts and tops so low you wonder if something's gonna peek out. Sure, we should all be able to dress as we like, but wow.

It's one thing to do candids of naked children playing, or bathing...it's a whole different issue when they are brought into a studio and told to get naked and pose....bathtub or not.

Candids are life happening...MMI's sister, for example. People at a party not expecting you to take the shot. There is no planning or posing. To me, that is artistic. Posing for a photo is modeling. So now we have a 12 year old nude model. She can't sign the contract on her own...because she's not mature enough in the eyes of the law, or in my eyes, either.

My father took pix of me in a bikini when i was about 6 years old. He had me posed on our coffee table, all sexy lookin, lounging like i was on the beach. i was never abused by my father, y'all...but Master didn't know what to say when he saw this pic. Master thought it was questionable...i'm a child of the 70s too. My family never made a big deal of nudity. Not that dad ran aound the house naked...but when we saw it on tv or a movie, it was just part of the show, nothing more. The pix that my dad took were of his precious little angel, and i'm sure he never intended them to be some sort of porn or even thought that they would be considered questionable.

i can tell you this: As the subject of such art, i can say that i would not be happy to hear that some sicko yanked his wank using these pix. And i'm not naked in them!! This girl is not mature enough to make up her own mind about this, period. How is she gonna feel about this later on in life? i know that i feel uncomfortable when someone sees those pix now.

At the age of 18 here in the US, you can vote, smoke and legally have sex. You can't enter into a contract at the age of 12. You have to wait till you're 18. This is for a reason...now this little 12 year old girl gets to live with the stigma of being "that poor little girl...." i really don't think it's right.