What the United States Supreme Court Says

[MMI]

I live in Britain. We abolished the right to have unlicensed guns years and years ago. It was virtually impossible to own a gun unless you were a farmer: and then only a shotgun (to kill foxes and scare crows). We then had a shooting where a lunatic (who belonged to a gun club) killed several school children, and our politicians decided, in the interests of the people's safety, to make it even harder to own or even possess guns. The majority of the population gladly endorsed this

But, there were still illegal guns and gun murders, too. However, our police, even today, walk around unarmed. And many - I dare say, the majority - of our people have never held or seen a gun close up, and likely, they never will. True, we have armed response units, and cetain police are armed now - at airports, for example - but that has little to do with domestic gun crime, more to do with international terrorism.

Even with the growth of gun crime in UK, due mainly to Jamaican drug dealers, our police do not need to carry firearms. "Home grown" felons do not normally use guns - they don't need to - and they regard other miscreants who might use guns as among the lowest of the low lifes they mingle with.

And murders by firearms in UK are confined mainly to the criminal fraternity killing each other in drug wars. Sadly, there have been instances of one or two innocent children being killed by those illegal guns, but there is absolutely no way that the legal possession of firearms by the parents (or anyone else) would have prevented those killings. We, as a nation, think that the accidental killing of children through the misuse of guns is outrageously irresponsible, not a simple hazard of life.

It's not my vision that the bullshit is obscuring.

As for people wanting their guns back, why would they? I bet you got that information from the NRA or the Ku Klux Klan or some othe similar organisation. Anyway, you're utterly wrong!

Apart from a hunting rifle (on which I'll suspend judgement), I can only asssume that, if you own a gun, you contemplate killing someone. Why else would you need one? With so many intending killers roaming free, exercising their right to bear arms, how does that make America a better society?

[Warbaby1943]

As for people wanting their guns back, why would they? I bet you got thoat information from the NRA or the Ku Klux Klan or some othe similar organisation. Anyway, you're utterly wrong on that.

I got it from a video by an Englishman and I wish I could put my hands on it now. Not all over there agree with your point of view form what this video says and points out. Actually he was urging Americans to not allow it to happen to them and thank God so far it hasn't.

http://www.reason.com/news/show/28582.html 5th paragraph says it well.

http://rkba.org/comment/brown/England.html

[Thorne]

I got it from a video by an Englishman and I wish I could put my hands on it now. Not all over there agree with your point of view form what this video says and points out. Actually he was urging Americans to not allow it to happen to them and thank God so far it hasn't.

http://www.reason.com/news/show/28582.html 5th paragraph says it well.

http://rkba.org/comment/brown/England.html

Very interesting links, WB. Sorry to say I'm not surprised, but it is certainly telling.

It only stands to reason that, when you take away peoples ability to defend themselves, you make them targets for the wolves in their midst. And then you disarm those who are supposed to help protect them? As the article stated, the police now have to fear that the kid on the bicycle might have an automatic weapon. And he would use it, too. Knowing that there's damned little the police could do to stop him!

No, gun control, and turning over our safety to a government committee, are not the way to go. Licensing weapons, restricting certain weapons, mandatory training and testing, these are all doable and things which no reasonable person can protest against. When criminals know that any person they might confront could be armed, and trained to use the weapon, they must think twice about attacking people. Those who don't think, such as drug addicts, deserve whatever fate overtakes them. Better they should be wounded, or even killed, than those law-abiding citizens who are their prey.