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Paranoid? Hardly. Muslims ruled all of north Africa for over 600 years and Spain for several hundred as well. It wasn't until Charles "The Hammer" Martell defeated them that Europe was saved. The calipate ruled until Mustapha Attaturk (founder of Turkey) helped to bring down the Byzantine Empire, then the tide turned. History is a bitch for those who don't study it. Yes, there are many nice, friendly, peaceable mulims. That's not the point. Muslim theocracy forbids negotiation unless they are at a disadvantage. Compassion is regarded as weakness - who contributed more to the tsunami victims - muslims or non-muslims (infidels.) Religion per se doesn't make one dangerous...but if the religion teaches it, it can. The gang that conducted 911 weren't poor, deprived people. Neither were the ones who blew up the London underground. These are well educated, well financed supporters of a very dangerous group of individuals who happen to have a tremendous amount of wealth. The most dangerous weapon of mass distruction is unlimited wealth under the control of a mad man. The dangerous issue is that the group happens to number in the multiple of millions.

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The most dangerous weapon of mass distruction is unlimited wealth under the control of a mad man. The dangerous issue is that the group happens to number in the multiple of millions.

Actually (and I would add unlimited wealth AND POWER to the quote), this sounds like Bush and crew. He is using the office of the Presidency to attempt to build a dictatorship. And he has been a weapon of mass destruction to this nation.

But Snark your post brings up another thing that I find despicable about the way conservatives and fundamentalists have USED the events on 9/11. The effort to paint ALL members of a particular religion with the terrorist brush.

It is an opinion lacking in any sort of REAL back-up. And YES, the fundamentalists in this country start to look a lot like the fundamentalists in other countries.
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Adriana, Thank you for a well-thought out and lucid post.

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Paranoid? Hardly. Muslims ruled all of north Africa for over 600 years and Spain for several hundred as well. It wasn't until Charles "The Hammer" Martell defeated them that Europe was saved. The calipate ruled until Mustapha Attaturk (founder of Turkey) helped to bring down the Byzantine Empire, then the tide turned. History is a bitch for those who don't study it. Yes, there are many nice, friendly, peaceable mulims. That's not the point. Muslim theocracy forbids negotiation unless they are at a disadvantage. Compassion is regarded as weakness - who contributed more to the tsunami victims - muslims or non-muslims (infidels.) Religion per se doesn't make one dangerous...but if the religion teaches it, it can. The gang that conducted 911 weren't poor, deprived people. Neither were the ones who blew up the London underground. These are well educated, well financed supporters of a very dangerous group of individuals who happen to have a tremendous amount of wealth. The most dangerous weapon of mass distruction is unlimited wealth under the control of a mad man. The dangerous issue is that the group happens to number in the multiple of millions.

There have always been different rulers over different territories. Before the immigrants came to the americas the Indians ruled the land. Sweden was a superpower and ruled over Sweden, Finland, Norway the Baltic states and half of todays Germany and Poland. Not even sure what that has to do with much when it comes to today. Sure the muslims influenced the south of Spain and you can still see the remains of that in the old buildings and I am sure you can see more signs if you look closely but you have to remind yourself that that was a very long time ago.
Islam doesnt teach that they should invade the rest of the world and any muslim would tell you that if you dared to actually ask my friend.
You can however find fanatics in most religions including the christian faith.
Do you honestly believe that there are multiple millions of fanatic muslims(not even mentioning that they have to be of unlimited wealth? That is just paranoia and crazy talk imho.
I think you need to get out more and perhaps start to read some non biased newspapers or internet news that actually can tell you about the world. and no FOX news isnt that just to name one example.

(sorry for the delay in my reply. Havent had time to actually write something longer than a few lines for the past two days).