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View Poll Results: What say you on the United States' new gun control ruling?

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  • The U.S. Supreme Court interpreted the Second Ammendment appropriately.

    22 68.75%
  • The U.S. Supreme Court got it wrong.

    7 21.88%
  • I really don't give a flip what Americans do with their guns.

    3 9.38%
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  1. #1
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    LOL. It is a mute point.
    I am glad to see all these opinions, even if I personally think some of them are bull.

    My uncareing, inflamatroy wrong headed, radical, multiple gun owning, active NRA member, conservative, crazy self, didn't go put my life on the line in two wars to defend your rights to free speech or to bear arms for nothing after all.

    Looks like the cake eating liberal civillian stereotype still holds true in some corners.

    Fanatics are apparently located on both sides of this so called argument.

    In defence of the NRA, who are in no way "crazy". We work hard to keep the "right to bear arms" available to the American people. Thats it plain and simple. Without a group of individual conserned citizens like ourselves (the NRA) to prevent it, the government would eventually attempt to remove such rights.

    It is not the first nor the last time we shall probably see them try.
    I thank the Godess that aparently at least 5 of those Justices on our Supreme Court, see it the same way
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuskovian View Post
    LOL. It is a mute point.
    I am glad to see all these opinions, even if I personally think some of them are bull.

    My uncareing, inflamatroy wrong headed, radical, multiple gun owning, active NRA member, conservative, crazy self, didn't go put my life on the line in two wars to defend your rights to free speech or to bear arms for nothing after all.

    Looks like the cake eating liberal civillian stereotype still holds true in some corners.

    Fanatics are apparently located on both sides of this so called argument.

    In defence of the NRA, who are in no way "crazy". We work hard to keep the "right to bear arms" available to the American people. Thats it plain and simple. Without a group of individual conserned citizens like ourselves (the NRA) to prevent it, the government would eventually attempt to remove such rights.

    It is not the first nor the last time we shall probably see them try.
    I thank the Godess that aparently at least 5 of those Justices on our Supreme Court, see it the same way
    Amen!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuskovian View Post
    LOL. It is a mute point.
    I am glad to see all these opinions, even if I personally think some of them are bull.

    My uncareing, inflamatroy wrong headed, radical, multiple gun owning, active NRA member, conservative, crazy self, didn't go put my life on the line in two wars to defend your rights to free speech or to bear arms for nothing after all.

    Looks like the cake eating liberal civillian stereotype still holds true in some corners.

    Fanatics are apparently located on both sides of this so called argument.

    In defence of the NRA, who are in no way "crazy". We work hard to keep the "right to bear arms" available to the American people. Thats it plain and simple. Without a group of individual conserned citizens like ourselves (the NRA) to prevent it, the government would eventually attempt to remove such rights.

    It is not the first nor the last time we shall probably see them try.
    I thank the Godess that aparently at least 5 of those Justices on our Supreme Court, see it the same way
    My grandfather, my father, my uncles have ALL fought to keep this nation free. I own guns and support the owning of guns. But I DO believe in controls and regulation.

    I have said here what I believe in. What I have gotten in return has been the support of shooting and killing liberals. Being called a "cake-eating Liberal stereotype." I DO believe the leadership of the NRA are radical and unfeeling in some of their actions.

    I have never said ALL the members are.

    I have never said that those that believe that some here are stereo-typical or should be shot.

    Stereotypes work both ways though it seems. As does resorting to name-calling. I know that I have a different opinion from the bulk of the people here.

    I will not change your opinion, I know that. But I will always support the right for you to say your piece. And you will not change my opinion either. But expressing a different opinion seems to be a crime to some of the people here. Or at least could get you shot.

    So I will stop expressing my opinion here.

    Sorry that people who think differently are not allowed to have their opinions respected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John56{vg} View Post
    ...I will not change your opinion, I know that. But I will always support the right for you to say your piece. And you will not change my opinion either. But expressing a different opinion seems to be a crime to some of the people here. Or at least could get you shot.

    So I will stop expressing my opinion here.

    Sorry that people who think differently are not allowed to have their opinions respected.
    John, this is always going to be a very divisive issue.

    Everyone here is welcome to express their opinion so long as they respect others. So, please continue, if you wish.


    Please, (all) try to stay objective here.
    Last edited by Alex Bragi; 07-06-2008 at 10:01 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John56{vg} View Post
    My grandfather, my father, my uncles have ALL fought to keep this nation free. I own guns and support the owning of guns. But I DO believe in controls and regulation.

    I have said here what I believe in. What I have gotten in return has been the support of shooting and killing liberals. Being called a "cake-eating Liberal stereotype." I DO believe the leadership of the NRA are radical and unfeeling in some of their actions.

    I have never said ALL the members are.

    I have never said that those that believe that some here are stereo-typical or should be shot.

    Stereotypes work both ways though it seems. As does resorting to name-calling. I know that I have a different opinion from the bulk of the people here.

    I will not change your opinion, I know that. But I will always support the right for you to say your piece. And you will not change my opinion either. But expressing a different opinion seems to be a crime to some of the people here. Or at least could get you shot.

    So I will stop expressing my opinion here.

    Sorry that people who think differently are not allowed to have their opinions respected.

    I am really sorry if you felt I was disrespecting your opinion. I was just saying that you should really stop saying that even MOST NRA members are like that. I realize that the majority of the leadership is rather crazy, but generalizations are insulting to either side. I was not saying you can't have your opinion, or even voice it. I think the point of free speech was so that we could all hear each others' opinions and be informed. Honestly, I AGREE with you about gun control. I was just very much insulted by your insinuations that even most NRA members are crazy and not for that. It's not anymore fair than assuming that most people for gun control actually mean that no one should be allowed to own a gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissElizabeth87 View Post
    I am really sorry if you felt I was disrespecting your opinion. I was just saying that you should really stop saying that even MOST NRA members are like that. I realize that the majority of the leadership is rather crazy, but generalizations are insulting to either side. I was not saying you can't have your opinion, or even voice it. I think the point of free speech was so that we could all hear each others' opinions and be informed. Honestly, I AGREE with you about gun control. I was just very much insulted by your insinuations that even most NRA members are crazy and not for that. It's not anymore fair than assuming that most people for gun control actually mean that no one should be allowed to own a gun.
    The only statement that I wrote that said ALL or MOST members of the NRA are crazy was to make a point. Thorne stated that "Those who proclaim . . . gun control . . . really want to ban guns completely."

    THis statement was a blanket statement and not even near true. If you read my post further you will see that I put the offending remark in italics, and explained that it was a blanket statement and was wrongheaded and not meant to be taken as comeplete fact.

    Like you, my problem is with the Leadership and some of the group's political posturing that is uncaring and, yes, crazy, in my opinion.

    I have stated again and again how I am sure their are many members of the NRA that are for responsible gun ownership and for sane gun laws and regulations. In fact many of my family and friends are members.

    So I ma sorry you got that impression, but if you will read the whole post you will find I did not mean to blanket every member (or even most) with being crazy.

    But, even as a gun owner I would never belong to the NRA because of the actions of the leadership. I consider THOSE people as radicals. Again, my opinion. I totally respect yours and even the opinions of those that do NOT respect mine.

    However, getting personal and making "jokes" about shooting and killing those that don't agree with you, gets NO respect from me.

    Thank you for your post and I am sorry that I left the impression you received. It was not meant to leave that impression, it was an illustration.

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