lol, dan rather screwed up on national tv and it wasnt the first time of course he wasnt president at the time and able to squirm out of it like a certian former gov from arkansas

frankly i was shocked anything happened at all,

he needed to retire years ago,, but really who's fault was it that he didnt get his scources checked? i mean a big tv station like that one yu would think they have a whole staff to check scources, of course the push to get anything remotely controvesial out for the rateings ussually outwieghs most facts now days especially
with television

as for the waterboarding, we filled up a whole threads worth of posts on it in the is waterboarding torture thread, i am against and allways will be period, and so is my husband too, the usa should not condone torture of any kind and as my owner said in a previous post on the other thread, the survival instructors (which he was one) when teaching resistence techniques to our piolts dont mince words when they talk about waterboarding they call it what it is, ....torture