Thanku Oz and Amber

Pet: I am sorry and ask your forgivness if my original post offended you so; in my defence i didnt once accuse you of being inexperienced or an "online" gorean.

I was simply saying (if you re-read it) that whatever term you use to refer to yourself and or your Master is a personel one, no real right or wrong exists there so long as the two of you are happy.

Please dont take the second life comment out of context. It was in no way shape or form directed at you personally in any manner. It was made to point out an ethical difference between a certian dicotomy that is probably only apreciated by other real life "goreans" The vast majority of the so called "online vr Gorean community" missess the forest for the trees when it comes to philosophical practice (in most cases i am aware of) and has contributed to the prevading onius of misperception we (real life followers or Dr Lange's Philosophies) strive to correct. Absolutley no one upmanship was intended.

Despite our best efforts :Kajira and Goreans in general have allmost as bad a reputation in some parts of the real life bdsm comunity as the old school common perception of the word "slave" in your orginal post does in current society.

Which is probabely why "submissive" is the most commonly prefered term in todays politically correct world. Alltough i have heard "pet" used frequently as a nic-name, i havent yet (until reading your post) seen it used to refer to a condition of servitude, regardless of the level of submission. Vannilla people use it endearingly all the time.

Posting a link to the other thread was just done for the purpose of enlightenment, compare and contrast the two conditions of submission they are not all that dis-simular;perhaps your version of servitude is congruent to the one described in the other thread?

In any event i certianly hope you stay here and continue to particiapate, we are very glad to have you.

Please feel free to pm me if you wish for any clairifications or have questions on what i have posted, I would certianly wish to avoid any confussion in the future and if you ever need any help at all for that matter, i am allways willing to lend a hand to my fellow sisters of the collar.