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    I think the "true submissive" BS can be seriously damaging to a person. I had a MAJOR epiphany yesterday, in the slap you in the face, holy crap, sense.

    I'm deeply submissive. I honestly had no idea.

    It's because I'd previously heard so much about what made one a "true submissive" that I figured it was best just to stay out of that chinese finger trap altogether. So I just said (even as recent as yesterday) "I'm not really that submissive, what I am is owned."

    While I think that feelings toward one's ownership can deepen and expand, I don't think there are "levels" to being owned. Either you belong to another person or you don't. So knowing that I did was much more comforting and much less of a potential minefield than having to worry whether or not I was a "real and really real true submissive."

    What I'm not, is indiscriminately submissive. I'm not a people pleaser in general. I'm submissive to ONE person. And even within that relationship sometimes I do resist. I did not get a lobotomy when I accepted my collar. I will not agree with everything he says, and I will point that out. If I get my ass whipped for how I express myself, I am willing to accept those conditions, but I will not behave like a mindless automaton just so that someone else can "approve" of the "validity" of my ownership/submission.

    As years pass and our relationship deepens, my trust in his ownership of me will likewise deepen and resistance will be less and less. But it is a progression. And though we've been together 8 years in a kink/ownership type relationship, we have a very complicated history which has made our journey even to where we are at this time, a very slow one.

    Hey Flaming_Redhead, I don't think that being a slave means "blanket submission." Slaves don't always obey, they just understand they will be punished if they don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlepet View Post
    Hey Flaming_Redhead, I don't think that being a slave means "blanket submission." Slaves don't always obey, they just understand they will be punished if they don't.
    There's a difference between a submissive who has the right to negotiate each and every little thing that comes up and a slave who has given up the right to negotiate and accepted the fact that Master has the final say in everything. That's what "blanket submission" is referring to. I never said slaves always obey. They understand that to do otherwise will result in their punishment OR release.
    Once you put your hand in the flame,
    You can never be the same.
    There's a certain satisfaction
    In a little bit of pain.
    I can see you understand.
    I can tell that you're the same.
    If you're afraid, well, rise above.
    I only hurt the ones I love.

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