By Kwong: "Hi just wondering is this worth reading? is it a good read or just informative?"

Some people have enjoyed the series very much, I obviously did. But with all litterary endeavors not everyone will aggree, bueaty is in the eye of the beholder. Some found the books to be overly descriptive or too detailed in philosophical issues, where as others read them for those very reasons.

By Ragoczy: "So how do you two, following the Gorean philosophy in your own lives, adjust your behaviors when dealing with others who don't?"

Unless I am following a paticular order or preforming a specific task purposfully designed to further my submission or excite my owner or my own desires for exhibition. the general public has no clue i am a pleasure slave under 24/7 domination.

Truth be told Sir, most other BDSM practicioners when meeting us in person would never know we were "gorean" at all until it comes to the use of certian words. During conversation or the verbal issuence of certian commands.

For the most part when dealing with those that disagree or look down upon us we try to show by example,, for actions speak louder than words

As my owner said in his post we take flak from the fanatically crazy types that call themselves gorean, who we personally cant stand, but we do still attempt to help them see the "forest" intead of focusing on a single "tree".

we also try do our best to try and show people our brand of bdsm isnt something to be feared which is no easy mission.

all too many people cant look past the word "Gorean or Kajira" and take offence and stereotype or pigeionhole us as being a fringe group of less than serious practicioners of bdsm by calling us a version of "trekkies" or "etc. (not the worst thing ive been called but just as hurtful, i litterally cried when i see some posts)

combating the bad stigma propogated for the most part by the overtly anti-gorean hype created in an earlier exchange by Jacobs and his constituents against the books is a difficult task

Helping people see that certian words or principles norman presents in his books that he himself has said were not intentions of how things should be on earth so much as how they were on gor is one of my main reasons for my being "online" He does cover in detail in the books how a "Gorean on earth would act" and we have found many of these principles to be in accordance with a harmounious life.

By Ragoczy: "I assume, for instance, that Kuskovian isn't dragging random women off the street and chaining them to a slave ring."

Giggles of course not Sir, that would be generally considered illegal, He is far to Honorable to abduct a free person or break the law in such fashion. To be Gorean on Earth is still to be Bound by Earth's laws. "when in rome" etc.

By Ragoczy: "It's my understanding that a Gorean slave is expected to be respectful and deferential to everyone (?) to a degree that most in traditional society would find odd, so how much does denuseri have to adjust her behavior based on surroundings?"

Besides my having to rememebr when I am moving to be aware of how my body looks from different angles etc, as to present oneself as aluring and pleasing as possible to my owners or anothers gaze.

My owner has me conform to the general principle that I am to endeavor where possible to be "pleasing". I am respectful where appropriate to the degree required by my owner in any given circumstance, including chat rooms. For instance I dont generally speak in "third person" in public or in those settings its not required of me. I don't say Sir or Maam where not socially acceptable by the everyday standards of where we live or are at the time. To do so would cuase unnessesary attention to our special relationship and perhaps disrupt the harmony of others which would disapoint my owner as then I would be breaking the first tenent of a kajira,, "which is to be pleasing in all things."

This doesnt mean i dont act spirited or even like a "domina" in some peoples opinion. I am after all also a living representation of the Kajira's fire and spirit, my slave heat and passion are only restrained by the disipline my owner and he alone keeps me under. If I sence Dominance in an individual and freely choose to submit or am submitting becuase my owner wishes me to submit to the will of another so be it.

All others beware. (wicked evil grins)

The owned kajira is not "common" property on earth or Gor despite the over zeaolous ones that have misinterpeted the text.

She serves the needs of her owner first and foremost.

A free person shouldn't expect to be able to just boss around the property of another without the owners permission; especially if it interferes with set standards of conduct for that property, and or previous orders / conditions to which the said kajira is subject.

The kajira that is owned must protect herself from harm in the absence of her owner's presence. She is the the precious property of a Gorean and should not forget it. (This also applies for harming herself.)

"These girls may be exchanged among men, but commonly they are not. Most masters are rather possessive about thier slaves, paticularly if they are fond of them." Gardsmen of Gor, pp209

The unowned just as the owned kajira should also seek to train herself, keep herself free of harm, preserving the property that she will one day become for her future owner.

Keeping ones eye firmly fixed on the goal of every kajira; to one day become a true love slave for thier owner. To be utterly possessed, truely owned in all ways. She must be prepared for the moment, the moment she becomes "collared" in many ways.

To grow and learn, to seek spiritual and intelectual training as well as the physical, to become her owners very dream of truth and bueaty.

The kajira should: Never dull or boreing, She should be inventive, erudite, enticing, aluring, and beguileing. All this She must become and more. For her slavery shall one day be in total and her owner will want nothing less than her "all".

"One of the pleasant things about owning a slave," I said, "is the opportunity to converse with her, to listen to her, to hear her express herself, her feelings and ideas. One can learn much from a slave. Many slaves, like yourself, are highly intelligent. They can express themselves articulately, clearly, trenchantly, and lyrically. It is a great pleasure to talk with them. Then when one wishes," I said, "one puts them again on thier knees." Beasts of Gor, pp 203.

By Ragcozy: "And finally, with regard to the Gorean moral/ethical code, how do you deal with those in traditional society, most of whom have, shall we say, an, at best, distant relationship with the concepts of morals and ethics?"

Well Sir we live by the priciples of Truth, Honor, and Love in our household "respect" is literally everything. We cannot change the beliefs of others that do not cling as stringently to any ethical code. We can only live our lives and hope that others will find our way "The True Gorean Way" the one that most follows the principles set forth in the books; worthy of emulating or incorperating into thier own. Our way is of course not the only way. It is however the best one for us.

Thanku all for expressing such a detailed intrest in our views of what it means to be Gorean.

I hope you have found our views useful.

Your intellegent and honest curiosity is a re-freshing change from the ussual preconcepted inquirery we normally encounter.