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    it depends upon the type of pain, there are many ways to be in pain during bondage without it being because circulation is poor, its been to long a period etc...what about the ebi tie for eg? that is intended to be painful and if done correctly it is.
    as for health and safety, there is NO safe or healthy way of doing bondage no matter how careful you are, take every precaution possible but never assume it is safe!
    bondage is one of the most dangerous bdsm activities there is...after breathplay and strangulation!

    Quote Originally Posted by MissConfused View Post
    Does bondage always include pain and humiliation?
    bondage is INTENDED to cause pain and humiliation that was the primary reason of its invention, for the restraint and torture of prisoners.
    although western bondage and even some japanese bondage to a degree has been adapted to minimalise this, when people talk about pain in bondage generally they are not talking about additional pain ie floggings,clamps etc but pain as in aching from being in unnatural positions,stretched, unable to move for varying lengths of time amongst other things.

    Quote Originally Posted by MissConfused View Post
    Does pain always include bondage??
    no although it depends which way you choose to look at it, you could reasonably argue that you are in mental/emotional bondage which people often talk of even if you are not restrained physically...when you're being flogged until you can barely take anymore or it becomes so intense you cry and want to run...do you run or stay? (all by choice of course)


    Quote Originally Posted by MissConfused View Post
    Does humiliation always include bondage??
    no, but bondage always includes humiliation or is humiliating to a degree, even if it doesnt feel humiliating as such.



    Quote Originally Posted by MissConfused View Post
    Do all three always go together?
    in a way yes it does but again it's a mental thing, it depends how much you want to delve into it.
    we roleplay and therefore we do not experience real ''pain'' real ''bondage'' or real ''humiliation'' we experience what we enjoy,can tolerate and none of it (and everyone is going to really love me now lol) is ''genuine'' we take what we want and discard the rest...therefore we can answer these questions with a definite no but in reality if it was ''real'' the answer couldnt be anything but yes!

    but thats if you wanted to delve really deep
    Last edited by icey; 10-09-2008 at 10:04 AM.

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