Ruby, thanks for your message - and that was a great place you sent me to. Made a lot of sense for us. We are definitely into our own style of relatioship that is not heavily pain oriented - for us at least that is not a pleasure but I can fully understand that each of u has our own preferences. To someone else what Mariko and I have had may seem extreme too. It is not everyone who gets pleasure from seeing others making their wife submit - its just that the two of us find a staged experience like this to be a great outlet to inner fantasy.

Thanks also for your kind comments on our relationship - we have been, and still are, very lucky that we have experienced amazing sessions without destroying our personal feelings for each other. Far from it - I think it has been a great help in keeping together.