I didn't necessarily see Damyanti's post as questioning the fantasy as much as the occasional reality. I remember a news story about a guy in Europe who had cannibal fantasies, and found someone who shared them, and - well, finish the story yourself. His defense was consent, and as I recall it wasn't treated as first-degree murder, but I hope it wasn't because of the consent as much as, well, because they were both nuts. I haven't seen snuff threads here but there are some stories that get close to snuff. I just close them - not for me - but those are about unwilling victims. I can understand death as the ultimate loss of power and "giving" your death to someone as the ultimate surrender. As a fantasy.