How to turn a girl into a sub.

[Logic1]

Talk, talk, talk and more talk is the key. It seems to me though that you perhaps arent Dominant enough with her. You dont want to force her or do things that she doesnt want. I am not telling you do do things she doesnt want but be open and talk with her and perhaps you should start the foreplay with tying her down?
With her having submissive fantasies that shouldnt cause a big problem I guess.

and @ cadence. It sure looks like WE arent a good match then since I sure arent a "wham bam thankyou man" kinda guy ^^. I love the long "plays"

[cadence]

@ cadence. It sure looks like WE arent a good match then since I sure arent a "wham bam thankyou man" kinda guy ^^. I love the long "plays"

hahahaha, I don't think there are too many Dominants who enjoy the good ole wham bam

I do end up having to compromise, mostly it involves a lot of willpower or better yet a lot of rope

[Lisais mine]

the way i see it, if she has those fantasies, you have to step up. you can't make her a sub, but you can be more dominant. talk to her. plan a day to try tieing her up. plan it out. then don't do it.

call her one day. tell her you want her. that you will be there and she is to be ready. tell her what to wear. where to be. and what you will do TO her. then follow through.

[E.C. Holland]

Good advice on this thread. I think Logic nailed it best. It seems like it's more a matter of you coming to terms with your dom-ness than with her submission.

If it pleases her to please you, and you are only worried about pleasing her, then you reach a stand-off. Take control, and tell her what you want, even if that means she has to delay gratification (especially if that means she has to delay gratification). Even if it means that sometimes you're taking what you want rather than giving what she wants. (If you're both really d/s, those will come hand in hand--so to speak)

And it's not like you're talking about tying her or hurting her without permission, just making her put off cumming. When it comes to orgasm control, the ends always justify the means. There is nothing better than an orgasm you have to work for.