Quote Originally Posted by JimmyJump View Post
The true meaning of the word sadist, is indeed getting a kick out of giving pain, but with complete disregard of the 'victim'.
So it is. But I am using it a bdsm context, as in giving pain to some who gets something out of it - the way as quite a number of dominants do.

People calling themselves sadists because they like to inflict pain to a masochist need further scrutinizing (the act, not the folks) as there's a strong possibility that their sadism is instigated by the masochism of their partner.
Scrutinizing? Why? We do what we like with people who like it. That is enough.

Torquemada, Mengele, François Alphonse Donatien De Sade, they are true sadists and thus dispicable as, indeed, there was something wrong with them.
True, but although the word is the same, I think we can all tell the difference between Mengele and a Mistress whipping a willing slave.

Also, it is not because people define themselves as being something that they are.

I have been a passenger on an airplane. As a result, I could define myself as an aviator. But the fact that I would do so doesn't make me one...
Pople in the lifestyle get to know themselves, and then they put a name on it. That is what I meant. What else can/should you do??




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