As interesting as a side bar on religion vs other methodologies for going to war can be.....perhaps its time we shifted the focus back to the topic. Personally, I don't believe its all that nessesary for every single thread on theological topics to be turned into a bully pulpit / soap box for religion bashing.

Especially when it continues to be derogatory in nature despite professed efforts to the contrary.

That topic being if I recall answering the following paraphrased questions:

Who presented the idea of hell and why?

Does hell exist?

Does there have to be a hell to make us behave?

What is good behaviour?

What role does the concept of hell or no hell play in our being capeable of living with injustice in this life?