Climategate

[steelish]

Not to mention this little tidbit of information...when was the media going to report it?

[oww-that-hurt]

steelish, thanks for the interesting links.

I got a kick out the one that said Glacier's glaciers were on the 'verge' of regrowing just because of a little snowstorm. In an average year that area can measure snow depth in yards.

As of yesterday we in the Bitterroot Mountains are at 55% normal snow pack for this season. I can stand in my backyard (in the sunshine) and easily see a lot of bare soil at 8,000' and lots of bare patches over 9,000'. We are in the area of 150 miles south of Glacier Park.

About the local media here EVER reporting something accurate and timely will just not happen if there is even the slightest possibility that something about may not be politically correct. Thanks to the internet we can grab papers and university departments and on and on all over the world.

End of soap box.

[steelish]

I got a kick out the one that said Glacier's glaciers were on the 'verge' of regrowing just because of a little snowstorm. In an average year that area can measure snow depth in yards.

Glaciers where? Glacier's glaciers? Sorry, I just wanted to know which one you were pinpointing.

During my research on posting here I've also seen photos of people standing at glaciers that show NO MELTING at all since 1998. In the photos you can see a horizontal line in the ice showing the exact time melting stopped and new ice formed.

The earth has been around approximately 4.55 billion years. Dinosaurs roamed the earth for 165 million years. Huge volcanos belched sulfuric acid into the sky during the entire Jurassic Period and well into the Cretaceous Period. Homo Sapiens have been on earth for a mere 100,000 years - only since 1913 has large scale industrial factories existed (a mere 97 years). In 97 years we humans have effected the entire planet so much that we've changed global climate????

[DuncanONeil]

Am currently reviewing material on the Little Ice Age. May seem out of place but we are talking glaciers.
This was a period of cold last four to five hundred years where glaciers advanced. (temperatures about four degrees cooler than now)
Prior to that was the Medieval Warm Period. Again several hundred years, with temperatures four to seven degrees above the so called norm.
Begs the question how do we know the same is not happening now?

Glaciers where? Glacier's glaciers? Sorry, I just wanted to know which one you were pinpointing.

During my research on posting here I've also seen photos of people standing at glaciers that show NO MELTING at all since 1998. In the photos you can see a horizontal line in the ice showing the exact time melting stopped and new ice formed.

The earth has been around approximately 4.55 billion years. Dinosaurs roamed the earth for 165 million years. Huge volcanos belched sulfuric acid into the sky during the entire Jurassic Period and well into the Cretaceous Period. Homo Sapiens have been on earth for a mere 100,000 years - only since 1913 has large scale industrial factories existed (a mere 97 years). In 97 years we humans have effected the entire planet so much that we've changed global climate????

[steelish]

Am currently reviewing material on the Little Ice Age. May seem out of place but we are talking glaciers.
This was a period of cold last four to five hundred years where glaciers advanced. (temperatures about four degrees cooler than now)
Prior to that was the Medieval Warm Period. Again several hundred years, with temperatures four to seven degrees above the so called norm.
Begs the question how do we know the same is not happening now?

I agree with you...that is the point I am trying to make in my posts. We have only been around for 100,000 years...and it's only been the last 97 years in which we've had the type of industrialization that people claim "causes global climate change" or "global warming".

I find it hard to believe that in 97 (or even 200) years, that we (humans) brought about worldwide climatic change to a planet that is 4.55 billion years old and has withstood much worse than what we've thrown at it.

[DuncanONeil]

And the reported varience between Ice Age and Warm Period is four to seven degrees either side of a "norm".

And for those of you that insist on it this is from the folks at National Geographic!

I agree with you...that is the point I am trying to make in my posts. We have only been around for 100,000 years...and it's only been the last 97 years in which we've had the type of industrialization that people claim "causes global climate change" or "global warming".

I find it hard to believe that in 97 (or even 200) years, that we (humans) brought about worldwide climatic change to a planet that is 4.55 billion years old and has withstood much worse than what we've thrown at it.

[DuncanONeil]

Not to mention this little tidbit of information...when was the media going to report it?

When the information about Mr. Jones of East Anglia came out it was not widely reported. I checked there was noting about his faults on ABC, CBS, AP, CNN, or any of the other mainstream outlets!

[steelish]

When the information about Mr. Jones of East Anglia came out it was not widely reported. I checked there was noting about his faults on ABC, CBS, AP, CNN, or any of the other mainstream outlets!

Of course not. Those are the media outlets who support the current "regime" and will gain by supporting the claims.