I really shouldn't have left this thread on email alerts, I keep getting dragged back to it when I should have given it up. Because what can you say to comments like
considering earth is about 3,000 years past due for an Ice Age, I think its safe to say nobody really knows.
Or in other words, considering that there is more than one theory about climate, even though the other theories' predictions have not come true for a century and the AGW predictions have consistently come true for the last fifty years, we can still point to the other ideas to claim nobody "really" knows. On that basis, so longs as the Flat Earth Society still exists (http://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djubl...rthsociety.htm) one can argue that nobody really knows the world is round.

Meanwhile, along with NASA http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/New...w.php?id=43306 http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/New...w.php?id=43083, the US Geological Survey and the Pentagon, we now have to add to the ranks of the AGW conspiracy that well known organ of state socialist propaganda, the Economist: http://www.economist.com/opinion/dis...ry_id=14966227 Since it's a magazine for the rich, that's a paying link, but if you aren't interested enough to pay to know exactly what they think there are plenty of blogs with a summary.

In 97 years we humans have effected the entire planet so much that we've changed global climate????
Oddly enough, that's what an increasing number of paleogeologists think, to the point of changing the textbooks to say so: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0326101117.htm But of course you already list the world's geologists among the conspirators. Thank goodness we've got tabloid journalists to tell us why all these different scientific disciplines are wrong.
Government, lately ANY Government is of the opinion that what they "know" and "believe" is of more import than anything anyone else knows!
What can one say? Pot... Kettle... Oh, never mind.

I admire your strength for staying with this, Denu, I couldn 't face it. I'm off out again.