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    Quote Originally Posted by grinner666 View Post
    You should check your facts before before spouting off. The EPA's authority STOPS at the water's edge, which is where the Coast Guard's authority starts. If you don't believe the Coast Guard has been active in this fucking nightmare, then you just haven't been paying attention.
    You mean none of the oil has reached shores yet???? Hmmm...the news I've been watching is incorrect then.

    Seriously though. Why do you think I stated that the government (through the EPA) needs to ensure that BP cleans up the mess COMPLETELY. It's because the coast of LA is now saturated with oil. I never mentioned the EPA going into the gulf to clean up the water. I am a trained Emergency Response volunteer. I help with clean up efforts after natural disasters and our group recently had to take the BP HazMat module 3 course to become certified to handle the oil cleanup. I might not have made myself clear in my post, but in no way did I "spout off" about something that you've accused me of being ignorant of.


    Quote Originally Posted by grinner666 View Post
    First, I have yet to see a law REGULATING anybody's fat intake; dietary advice from your government can be treated like dietary advice from your horsey Aunt Mabel who never saw an eclair she didn't like. It can be paid attention to or ignored as you wish. From the majority of kids I've seen lately, I'd be willing to say that far and large, the government's advice is being ignored. So kindly calm down with the "regulate our fat intake" hyperbole.
    *sigh*

    I never said there were any laws regulating anyone's fat intake. My exact phrase was: "I find it ironic that the government wants to get involved with our daily lives and regulate our fat intake, yet they didn't impose regulations - such as make the $500,000 protective pressure valve gauge - a requirement on offshore rigs."

    (Notice the use of the word: WANTS)

    Quote Originally Posted by grinner666 View Post
    As to your whine about government requirements regarding offshore oil rigs, while I agree that the Obama administration dropped the ball here on regulating the oil industry, I would first like to point out that the administration has had just over ONE year to correct the fuckups of DECADES of the control of regulatory agencies by the industries they're supposed to regulate. That isn't something Obama CAUSED but something he INHERITED. Give the man a chance.

    Second, I find it not just amusing but absolutely hilarious that your opening post whined that you think Obama is a socialist, but here you're whining that you want his administration to impose MORE "socialist" restrictions on private enterprise.
    Wow. You sure are reading a lot of inflection into the post.

    I didn't whine about anything. Nor did I wish/request/want the government to regulate the oil industry. What I did was point out that I thought it ironic that they want to regulate our personal lives (fat intake) yet they don't bother to regulate something like the offshore oil drilling.


    Quote Originally Posted by grinner666 View Post
    You can't have it both ways. Either Obama's "radical socialist" (formerly centrist - right) agenda regarding private enterprise is right, or it's TOO FAR RIGHT, or it's wrong. It can't be too socialist and let private business get away with too much all at once. They're mutually exclusive.

    I suggest you come up with a coherent political philosophy YOURSELF, before arguing further. Right now you sound like an "I don't want to pay taxes but I want the federal government to take care of me anyway" teabagger.

    I believe you're totally confused. In no way did I say his agenda gets him too involved in private enterprise, yet it's not enough involvement.

    Also - If you've been following most of these threads, and reading my posts, you would know (in no uncertain terms) that I have no problem paying taxes...AND, I DON'T want the federal government to take care of me. PERIOD.


    Please forgive me if I come across as rude in my reply. I felt a bit defensive and wanted to correct any misconceptions.
    Last edited by steelish; 05-29-2010 at 11:39 AM. Reason: added apology
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