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    Quote Originally Posted by Cathryn Blackthorne View Post
    Well, some of us living in the US agree. Not everyone buys into the propaganda of slogans like: "America is the greatest country in the world," and believe it's possible things here could do with change/improvement.
    See, this is what I've never understood. America is unique among countries. Why should it change? To use your exact words; "There are some of us living in the US" who want it to be as the Founding Fathers intended. Why can't it be that and those who don't like it can move? After all, there are plenty of other nations to choose from.

    For example, if you specifically want a Ford Expedition, you go buy a Ford Expedition...you don't buy a Ford F250, put a topper on it and pretend it's a Ford Expedition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steelish View Post
    See, this is what I've never understood. America is unique among countries. Why should it change? To use your exact words; "There are some of us living in the US" who want it to be as the Founding Fathers intended. Why can't it be that and those who don't like it can move? After all, there are plenty of other nations to choose from.
    Every country is unique and everything changes ... no exceptions ... and what the founding fathers intended over two hundred years ago ... well a majority of that just isn't relevant to today's world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TantricSoul View Post
    Every country is unique and everything changes ... no exceptions ... and what the founding fathers intended over two hundred years ago ... well a majority of that just isn't relevant to today's world.
    Which parts do you think those are?

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelish View Post
    See, this is what I've never understood. America is unique among countries. Why should it change? To use your exact words; "There are some of us living in the US" who want it to be as the Founding Fathers intended. Why can't it be that and those who don't like it can move? After all, there are plenty of other nations to choose from.

    For example, if you specifically want a Ford Expedition, you go buy a Ford Expedition...you don't buy a Ford F250, put a topper on it and pretend it's a Ford Expedition.
    Which founding father? They collectively agreed on very little

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    Quote Originally Posted by tedteague View Post
    Which founding father? They collectively agreed on very little
    They collectively wrote the Constitution. I would say they agreed on that. (They did, after all, sign the document)
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    Quote Originally Posted by tedteague View Post
    The EU recently announced it will begin subsidizing vacations. What's next?
    Well nothing surprises me about the EU, let’s see what have we had from the European intelligence bank, the bananas from Africa had to be sent back if they never had the correct curve on them. [I suppose that is only fair] LMFAO.

    The cucumbers that had too many twists and had to be thrown away because they were hard to slice when making a salad, good thing too I don’t like cucumbers.

    Eggs that are to big have to be thrown out and destroyed, because new boxes would have to be produced to carry them producing more waste. There has to be a hidden logic there somewhere. And what about the poor chickens asses that laid them should they have been sewn up?
    All signs in the UK had to be converted to KPH because it was confusing to the rest of Europe, good because when I was over there for two years theirs were confusing to me. At least the UK government in the last week has seen sense and told them to back off.

    Quote Originally Posted by DuncanONeil View Post
    Because the current power structure in the US thinks we should be more like Europe!
    Looking at the load of crap Europe is throwing out over the past eight years, the US had better get rid of its current power structure and fast.

    Quote Originally Posted by steelish View Post
    See, this is what I've never understood. America is unique among countries. Why should it change? To use your exact words; "There are some of us living in the US" who want it to be as the Founding Fathers intended. Why can't it be that and those who don't like it can move? After all, there are plenty of other nations to choose from.
    There is no need for it to change, as the world polices evolve there will be three economies remaining, American, European and Asian. I have nothing against Europe, it’s the idiots that are finding new laws in their Christmas crackers and passing them.

    It might seem by the tings I write about the EU that I am anti but in actual fact I’m not, it is as one person told me it is the natural progress of things. However until every country puts in the same amount of money to feed the EU, and all the time there is the theme of every country is equal but some are more equal than others it will never be a united states of Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelish View Post
    They collectively wrote the Constitution. I would say they agreed on that. (They did, after all, sign the document)
    Kicking and screaming, and after it was done, they had to write another couple of pages of crap they didn't include the frst time, then the two major players fought with each other until they both died, which coincidentally happened on the same day

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