art or offence?

[Jennifer Williams]

I am, for the most part, pretty accepting of most things, so I personally don't find this offensive.

My guess would be that enough men found it offensive that their complaints started the ruckus. My guess would be I might find it offensive if I were a man in that if I've gotta go, I have to go in one of those, or leave the building to try to find another one. Because pissing is a necessity, and there you are messing with it, taking away the men's control about it. Piss in the woman's mouth or...find a dark alley? Maybe that's what made them so upset.

I'm far more curious about what the mindset of this company was when they made these. "Guys, let's design this and see if anybody will buy it. *snicker*" I highly doubt their thought was "Well we all know women should be lesser than men, so let's make one of our urinals state that."

I was offended by the airline that considered installing them. My guess is (I would hope) that they were putting them in a bar area, but that is too public of a place, to me. Vanillas have a right to their idea of peace of mind, as do the rest of us, in very public places. In places where all kinds of people from all kinds of religions, races, and ethnicities come through, I think effort to make everything "blah" is necessary.

Also the bathroom with the photos of women watching while men piss was hysterical to me.

[leo9]

My guess would be that enough men found it offensive that their complaints started the ruckus. My guess would be I might find it offensive if I were a man in that if I've gotta go, I have to go in one of those, or leave the building to try to find another one. Because pissing is a necessity, and there you are messing with it, taking away the men's control about it. Piss in the woman's mouth or...find a dark alley? Maybe that's what made them so upset.

I think I'm more PC than average, but if I'd come upon this unexpectedly I'd probably have thought "Oh, that's stupid." It's too far away from anything real for me to find it offensive.

I'm far more curious about what the mindset of this company was when they made these. "Guys, let's design this and see if anybody will buy it. *snicker*"

I think both this and the "nuns" were probably just visual free-association with the shapes of functional urinals. You did see that this was designed by a woman?

I was offended by the airline that considered installing them. My guess is (I would hope) that they were putting them in a bar area, but that is too public of a place, to me. Vanillas have a right to their idea of peace of mind, as do the rest of us, in very public places. In places where all kinds of people from all kinds of religions, races, and ethnicities come through, I think effort to make everything "blah" is necessary.

That is a good point. I can imagine prudes of many religions being offended by it.

Also the bathroom with the photos of women watching while men piss was hysterical to me.

Me too. You did catch that they were all supposed to look awed or admiring at what they were seeing? A little wish-fulfilment fantasy to entertain the users...

[thir]

I'm far more curious about what the mindset of this company was when they made these. "Guys, let's design this and see if anybody will buy it. *snicker*" I highly doubt their thought was "Well we all know women should be lesser than men, so let's make one of our urinals state that."

Also the bathroom with the photos of women watching while men piss was hysterical to me.

As I remember, some of them at least were made by a female Dutch artist.

If by hysterical you mean funny, I reacted that way too! Maybe we are just women chauvinists ;-)

However, the knife block made out of a male body spooked me. Seemed very hostile.