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    Quote Originally Posted by denuseri View Post
    Most all of the following I got from Wikki:

    Its just FYI.

    In the United States, carrying a concealed weapon (CCW, also known as concealed carry) is the legal authorization for private citizens to carry a handgun or other weapons in public in a concealed manner, either on the person or in close proximity to the person.

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    Therefore, while state laws vary, generally use of deadly force is recommended as a last resort, when life or limb is endangered, when escape or retreat are foreclosed, and warnings are given but ignored. However, increased passage of "Castle Doctrine" laws allow persons who own firearms and/or carry them concealed to also use them to protect property, and/or to use them without first attempting to retreat.

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    Thank-you, den. I accept the facts you have set out above. My only comment is in response to the section I have quoted, but it applies to the whole post.

    In a sentence, the CCW laws are to me an incitement to violence as a first resort, not a last resort, and if that is the attitude of the authorities, then all of the "liability issues" are probably focused on avoiding penalties if you kill by mistake.

    What does "training" include? Target practice? What about how to avoid confrontation?

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    Here is an example of the requirements to secure a CCW permit, selected at random.
    http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/c500-599/5710000101.htm

    If you wish to check out others then you need to use this site.
    http://www.carryconcealed.net/

    Just in the spirit of fair play; State Department Locations:

    Attorney General
    123 West Washington Ave.
    PO Box 7857
    Madison, Wisconsin 53707-7857
    Phone: 608-266-1221 Fax: 608-267-2779
    Permit Costs & Info:
    N/A
    Click Here for CCW Permit Form
    Open Carry Information:
    Wisconsin is an open carry state. They have complete state preemption for firearms laws. However, you may not openly carry a firearm in a vehicle. http://opencarry.org/ Facts for my state.


    Quote Originally Posted by MMI View Post
    Thank-you, den. I accept the facts you have set out above. My only comment is in response to the section I have quoted, but it applies to the whole post.

    In a sentence, the CCW laws are to me an incitement to violence as a first resort, not a last resort, and if that is the attitude of the authorities, then all of the "liability issues" are probably focused on avoiding penalties if you kill by mistake.

    What does "training" include? Target practice? What about how to avoid confrontation?

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