Umm...from a very personal point of view, I think that the issue for males and 'submissiveness' isn't that members of the chatrooms don't want to chat or talk but rather as a non-pushy type, it is difficult to kinda 'drop in' to the conversations and 'little groups' on the forums.

I thought very long and hard about that when I first started visting the chat rooms & forums but I think thanks to the nice people on here I've spoken too, I can be far more open and honest about my submissiveness and my non-pushyness. I found it extremely difficult to open up and admit that I really couldn't cope with canings and being chained up as it made me really cry (as it does in real life relationships).

I think once I had been that honest in the forums and chat rooms, I seemed to 'connect' more both with Dominants and submissives whom I chatted with. I think though the first step, and I found it really hard, is to try and chat with people openly. I mean I felt, and it will sound very silly, very stupid when I first explained to people (who were openly talking about caning and stuff like that) that I just couldn't cope with that sort of pain and that I really wasn't very pushy.

Yes, now I get teased a bit for being not very 'fierce' but I find it much easier to talk in the rooms as I find it easier to discuss my 'non pushyness' with people of all status' who want to chat with me. I think the danger for some male submissives is that they still want to be 'pushy' even if the situation is clearly not meant for that.

Umm, I've probably not explained it very well, but hopefully, people will understand what I mean.