Animal Welfare or Veiled Racism?

[denuseri]

I only provided that information in responce to your statment that pagan/wiccan's do not have blood rituals and that it is in fact not as rare as you may think and involves more than just animals.

[thir]

I only provided that information in responce to your statment that pagan/wiccan's do not have blood rituals and that it is in fact not as rare as you may think and involves more than just animals.

I do not know where you have your information from, can only say that IME it is rare. Maybe it is different in US. Around here usually offerings are ale, corn, honey, cakes or the like.

As for whether it concerns humans as well as animals, again, that has no bearing on a topic on animal abuse. If people want to sacrifice their own blood or use it in a ritual, then that is their business and nothing to do with any kind of abuse.

[denuseri]

I do not know where you have your information from, can only say that IME it is rare. Maybe it is different in US. Around here usually offerings are ale, corn, honey, cakes or the like.

From academic books conserning the subject, from books written by wiccans, and different wiccan/neo-pagan writtings and the practicioners themselves, not only do I have several wiccan friends, my owner/husband is one too, plus I personally witnessed it, I used to hang out with a group that practiced blood magic.

They do non-blood sacrifices too.

As for whether it concerns humans as well as animals, again, that has no bearing on a topic on animal abuse.

I agree, it was only mentioned in responce to your saying they have no blood use in their rituals for informantional purposes only, not a slander, lots of religions cultures have similar religious practices conserning the use of blood, both human and animal.

If people want to sacrifice their own blood or use it in a ritual, then that is their business and nothing to do with any kind of abuse.

Again, it was a simple FYI not a slander against anyones faith.

If you dont believe me about its commonality in both modern neo-pagan practices in some groups and historical accounts, just do a simple google search conserning such practices, or crack any anthropology book open that deals with the importance of blood in sacrifcial practices, or read some of the wiccan writtings on blood magic and how its to be practiced.

I personally dont believe its "animal abuse" to sacrifice them or use their blood in a ritual eaither. To me its far more humane than hunting them, though truth be told I have no problem with animals being hunted, or with using them in farming so long as they are treated well.

My issue is with the industrialization proccesses used by the big corperate farms that cast aside all manner humane treatment for the sake of profits.

Additonally I tend to view PETA in and of itself as a fringe group oft filled with misguilded hypocrits, who are blithefully allowing themselves to be used for a hateful political agenda to attack other peoples cultural practices; especially when it comes to the topic of the thread.