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[Thorne]

What do you think of Germaine Greer's recent comment on BBC's Question Time that little girls grow up being made to flirt with their fathers, and are being sexualised when they are told to kiss Daddy goodnight?

I haven't seen the program, but what you've paraphrased is, IMO, horseshit. It takes a particularly inane personality to equate simple father/daughter love with sex. How about the little boys giving their mother a kiss goodnight? Is she sexualizing them? What about the little boys who give their dad's a kiss goodnight (mine did, for a while) or the little girls giving their moms a kiss? Are they being turned into homosexuals?

Some people seem to equate any kind of closeness with sex. They don't seem to understand that a father can give his child a hug and a kiss without even once thinking about his dick. I think those people need to look deeper into themselves and try to figure out where THEY are twisted, instead of trying to twist everyone else.

[MMI]

I haven't seen the program, but what you've paraphrased is, IMO, horseshit ...

The comment was made in response to a question whether little girls should be dressed in clothes that make them look older than they are. Her reply was to the effect that there has always been a culture of sexualising girls by encouraging them to flirt with their father - by giving him a goodnight kiss. A father of 3 girls in the audience said the suggestion was disgusting, but Greer was unrepentant.

I wish someone had challenged her about little boys kissing their mothers as you suggested, but unfortunately it did not happen. I think the audience was too astounded to react in time.

For general reaction see the posts on netmums - http://www.netmums.com/coffeehouse/g...ing-daddy.html

Now that feminism has made it unacceptable for males to interact with children they meet in public, they are turning on fathers to make it unacceptable to have any kind of relationship with their own children.

[thir]

The comment was made in response to a question whether little girls should be dressed in clothes that make them look older than they are.

Which to me is a relevant question, and they shouldn't. Bras for 8 year olds is insane.

I wish someone had challenged her about little boys kissing their mothers as you suggested, but unfortunately it did not happen. I think the audience was too astounded to react in time.

To the fundamentalist feminists this side of things simply do not exist. I have tried to take it up in discussions and they do not even answer. I guess they do not have any.

Now that feminism has made it unacceptable for males to interact with children they meet in public, they are turning on fathers to make it unacceptable to have any kind of relationship with their own children.

I do not know of any (normal non-fundamentalist) feminists who are like that, but I think quite a few religious people are on this track.

Whoever, the thing is to not go along with all that nonsense and to speak up against it, lest it really infects people's lives. I know it has already had impact. I do not know who is fuelling the pedophilia witch hunts, but they have a lot to answer for.

[Hellcat]

How about the little boys giving their mother a kiss goodnight?

I believe Frued went there years ago.

[thir]

Some people seem to equate any kind of closeness with sex. They don't seem to understand that a father can give his child a hug and a kiss without even once thinking about his dick. I think those people need to look deeper into themselves and try to figure out where THEY are twisted, instead of trying to twist everyone else.

I agree, and it is a truly terrible attitude, which has been promoted in the wake of all the pedophilia hysterics.

Many men and some women would not even dare help a child who had fallen and hurt her/him self. It has become so poisonous!

[Thorne]

Many men and some women would not even dare help a child who had fallen and hurt her/him self.

This actually happened to me. I happened to be in my kitchen, and saw a young boy riding his bicycle on the street in front of my house. The bike tipped and he fell onto the grass alongside the road. I immediately headed out the back door to make sure he was all right, but sadly my first thought was, "Should I take the chance of trying to help this kid?"

Fortunately, his father was there before I was, but it bothers me that I had to be concerned about the possible repercussions of helping a fallen child.

[IAN 2411]

This actually happened to me. I happened to be in my kitchen, and saw a young boy riding his bicycle on the street in front of my house. The bike tipped and he fell onto the grass alongside the road. I immediately headed out the back door to make sure he was all right, but sadly my first thought was, "Should I take the chance of trying to help this kid?"

Fortunately, his father was there before I was, but it bothers me that I had to be concerned about the possible repercussions of helping a fallen child.

I have to agree with you on that issue as i think every person at some time have had those thoughts....we now live in a dont touch the child world unless they are your own.

Be well IAN 2411

[MMI]

This actually happened to me. I happened to be in my kitchen, and saw a young boy riding his bicycle on the street in front of my house. The bike tipped and he fell onto the grass alongside the road. I immediately headed out the back door to make sure he was all right, but sadly my first thought was, "Should I take the chance of trying to help this kid?"

Fortunately, his father was there before I was, but it bothers me that I had to be concerned about the possible repercussions of helping a fallen child.

I also saw a young lad tumble from his bike. I did not help him. I did ask if he was hurt, and he wasn't.

My wife said under the circumstances I did the right thing by doing nothing.

[thir]

I also saw a young lad tumble from his bike. I did not help him. I did ask if he was hurt, and he wasn't.

My wife said under the circumstances I did the right thing by doing nothing.

It's insane that it has come to this! What can be done?