Quote Originally Posted by thir View Post
What a lovely idea! Why don't you start an organisation?
Probably because I don't really LIKE vegetables. Except maybe in a nice stew or soup.

I don't know about that, but as I see it, animals have just as much right to be here as other life.
Does the lion violates the rights of the gazelle when he eats it? Is the crocodile who eats a swimmer violating someones rights? I don't think so! They are doing what they are supposed to do, eating whatever they can catch. Just as humans do.

But we are in the process of taking All and Everything for ourselves, humans alone. What gives us the right to do that?
Survival of the species, one of the strongest evolutionary traits there are.

Are you going by bible, which says that god gave us all the earth and everything in it to do with as we please? If you do not believe in god, who gave us the right?
Evolution gives us the right. But with it, as you noted, comes responsibility. We won't survive for long, at least not as a civilization, if we destroy the ecosystem we depend upon for life.

How about stopping either putting them in cages, or ruining their habitats?
Sure, works for me. Why don't you start an organization?

Yes, they do, just like the American natives. How about we make a reasonable compromise, whereby we stop ruining more land and start being resposible for domestic animals?
I can go along with that. To a point. Just come up with a way to grow enough food to feed the billions of people already here without taking habitat from other species. After all, people have a right to eat.

Or do you feel that we have a right to go on till all animals are extinct, and there isn't a blade of grass on all the planet?
Nope. We have an obligation to ourselves NOT to do that. Because once that happens WE'LL become extinct. Nature's a bitch that way.