The problem is denu that these two creeps, and i am being polite by calling them that name, have no intention of debating the subject if elected. You are now talking about 9/11 as if that is a good reason[not your personal reason] but America's, to change the goal posts. There is no moral argument for torture, you are either for or against, do it or oppose it. If the USA think that torture, and I am talking about "enhanced interrogation" [Yea Right] Is the correct way to go, then who are they to run down China and like countries about human rights issues. These two presidential hopefuls are a danger to the civilised world. If Herman Cain had been in an African jail twenty years ago he would not be talking about "enhanced interrogation" like a crack pot now. Michele Bachmann, Bless her cotten socks just needs help and a lot of it.

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