[QUOTE=Thorne;957896]Oh, things are even worse than that!

"“I believe [the banner] violates the First Amendment. It’s endorsing atheism,” the mayor said. The creche “is a statue. It’s not a doctrinal statement.”"

So there is a limit for freedom of speech, after all..Right.


But yeah, the celebration of Christ's birth, which most likely happened in the spring, and which was moved to the current date to overshadow the pagan celebrations of the solstice, is the obvious and only reason for the season.
I think that is pretty much proven. However, let people celebrate what they want, when they want, but give othere the same right!

It doesn't really matter to these people that there are other religions, or those with no religions, who also celebrate at this time of the year, for completely different reasons. It's only THEIR holiday that matters, and not letting them force feed everyone else with their religious fairy tales is denying them their rights.
That is what is SO annoying! Though not, these days, dangerous, happily.

Happy Solstice, everyone.
And to you too :-))
Personally I can't wait for the light to come back, and it is a cause for joy when it starts!!