The War On Christmas Just Won’t End

[Thorne]

Just ran across this video. Pretty much explains what we've all been talking about, doesn't it?

[thir]

Just ran across this video. Pretty much explains what we've all been talking about, doesn't it?

Yes, mostly a good overview.

On the theme of why xtians want others to follow their path:

Catholics Protest ‘Blasphemous’ Play in Paris

"Catholic demonstrators in Paris have turned out in force to protest a play they call ‘blasphemous.’"

"Paris’s archbishop, André Vingt-Trois, has called Golgota Picnic, which he had not seen, “deliberately offensive.” Demonstrators who marched on the theatre Sunday bore banners reading ‘France is Christian and must remain so,’ and ‘That’s enough Christianophobia.’"

"Both authorities and art lovers are concerned about a rise in fundamentalist religious protest action against some of France’s most high-profile theatres, including pelting the audience with eggs, letting off stinkbombs and the invasion of the stage of Paris’s esteemed Théâtre de la Ville."

"In 1988, a Paris cinema screening Martin Scorsese’s The Last Temptation of Christ was firebombed. The attack injured 13 people, four of whom were severely burned."

"Earlier this year, photographs including Piss Christ by the New York artist Andres Serrano were destroyed at a gallery in Avignon."

"Authorities are concerned about connections between younger fundamentalists, who have been staging protests all over France, and the far-right. Hardline Christianist groups are believed to have broken with the National Front since it was taken over by Jean-Marie Le Pen’s daughter Marine.

The Théâtre de Rond-Point’s Jean-Michel Ribes said the role of artists was to fight against “suffocating dogma.”

French Culture Minister Frederic Mitterand said that while he was “very attached to the Christian tradition” in France, the right to freedom of thought and the separation of church and state needed to be protected “at all costs.”

Read more: http://www.care2.com/causes/catholic...#ixzz1gVYU15xU


Fundamentalism can start with grumping about what you call things officially. It should be stopped right there.

[Thorne]

Paris’s archbishop, André Vingt-Trois, has called Golgota Picnic, which he had not seen, “deliberately offensive.”

I love this! How often do we hear about some religious leader condemning something which he has not seen or read, basing his opinion solely on the word of someone else. How does he know it's offensive? Is it offensive to everyone? Or only to him? How does he know the offense was deliberate?

Basically it's the old, "You can't offend me, because I'm one of God's children."

Sorry, Bishop. No one has the right to NOT be offended. If you don't like it, don't go to see it. That doesn't give you the right to prevent others from seeing it if they want.

If your god isn't powerful enough to take care of his own image, why bother to worship him? He's just another wannabe god.

[Ozme52]

Now for my two cents.

Having actually grown up here in the USA as an impressionable non-Christian child, I was always made uncomfortable in school... being forced to pray to Christ. Yes, you don't realize how it is for non-whatever kids it must be to grow up in a secular state. Sure the Constitution said freedom of religion but until recently that wasn't what was practiced.

And Thorne is, imo, quite right. I don't see many non-Christian complaining about Christian practices. Just the more radical "Christians" objecting to those who want non-denominational celebrations. Why... it's as bad as those radical muslims objecting to anyone who uses islamic imagery to make a point. You know... the terrorists. (A concept that goes back to the Reformation. )

[Ozme52]

PS. If anyone is curious...

Zen Druid. It's ALL about the oak tree that isn't there.

[MMI]

Lol

[Thorne]

PS. If anyone is curious...

Zen Druid. It's ALL about the oak tree that isn't there.

Last night I saw upon the stair
A little man who wasn’t there
He wasn’t there again today
Oh, how I wish he’d go away