Quote Originally Posted by IAN 2411 View Post
I would also like to point out that if a phantom of another universe mingled with ours and you saw the phantom, then I would think that it is affecting our universe.
That was my point as well. If you can actually see it, you should be able to photograph, or measure, or get some kind of data from it, since it's interacting with our reality.

I'm not denying that you saw something, and I obviously cannot explain what you saw or how you saw it. I'm only saying that jumping to the conclusion that was some kind of supernatural event or strange mingling of parallel universes or something should probably be at the very bottom of your list of explanations, barring any real evidence.

You amaze me Thorne, you can believe a load of theories that you read about, but something that you have not or it does not comply with your thinking, then you rubbish out of hand as a load of twaddle.
Not my intention at all. True, I probably didn't see the program you mentioned, but I have read about alternate/parallel universes, and while there may not be any laws of physics that prohibit them from existing, there is also no evidence that they do in fact exist. Speculation, even when done by reputable scientists, is still nothing more than guesswork.

Just because you went on a ghost hunt and got cold and saw a few vapours you assume that seeing something like the wife and I saw is not possible. I was not looking for ghosts and it is you that is saying I saw a ghost.
Sorry, just using the term "ghost" as shorthand. And I'm not assuming what you saw isn't possible, just that it's not likely to be explainable by invoking the idea of a parallel universe, at least until other, more mundane, explanations have been exhausted. I believe that you saw what you say you saw, I'm just not willing to accept the idea that it was some kind of mingling of universes without exhausting all other explanations first.

To go on a ghost hunt is in my mind lunacy anyway, what the hell were you looking for in a field?
LOL. We were young, at a party with family, someone said they had seen ghosts at this old field before, so we bundled up and went. Walking through a dark field, moonlight reflecting off of the dew, keeping my girl warm. Best ghost hunt I ever had.

I have just thought of something else these guys said, not a sound echo but a visual echo. Yes, it’s even harder to believe than ghosts,
Actually, that's easier to believe. I have heard of some weird reflection events where lights seem to appear where there should not be any lights. A visual echo, if you will. I don't recall ever hearing of an echo like what you described, but I suppose it might be possible. Again, I would find that easier to accept, given our current knowledge of this universe, than that we are bumping uglies with some other universe.

I have an open mind and until a thing is proved with no shadow of a doubt I will remain sceptical.
Then you must remain skeptical. NOTHING can be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. We can only accumulate evidence to show that something is very likely to be true, or not. And it is impossible to prove that something does NOT exist. You can show all the negative evidence that, for example, there are no unicorns, but all that evidence wouldn't mean a thing if you turned the next corner and bumped into one. But if you don't get some hair samples, or capture the thing, or maybe get some pictures, along with a lot of corroborating evidence, I'm still going to question whether you actually saw what you think you saw.

I try to keep an open mind as well. I just don't let any old explanation fall in unless there's good evidence for it.