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    I done a little theological studies myself!!! yeah I know!!! But it was for more historical reasons than trying to become a vicar or priest etc.

    There was an angel, "the covering cherub of Eden" his job was to assist in turning the earth into a paradise. He was beautifully designed and "probably Gods second created son.
    Through jealousy and wanting to be worshipped himself, deceived Eve. Making the forbidden fruit appealing. She ate, then later Adam joined her. Then Adam blamed God, and eventually this fuelled a universal challenge of sovereignty!

    The covering cherub slandered or devilled God, and opposed or Satan"sed him. Hence becoming Satan the Devil!

    I was under the impression, Jesus died for mankind to [a] atone for what Adam and Eve had lost for us all by disobedience. And [b] so we could in fact approach God with a clean conscience. WE ARE sinners, but the need for human sacrifice. Helped atone for them. That is why after he died, or was executed the old mosaic law was abandoned.

    I dont for one minute believe God ordered his son to become a sacrifice, rather it was his son who probably offered. Considering its written "all things were created through his son" so therefore if we were created in Gods image, then we were of sentimental value. Otherwise we would all been condemned to death!
    Just like when the flood came and destroyed mankind. [that was Gods doing]
    I suppose its like me offering to become a hostage, so the other person can be freed!!?? Especially if they were vulnerable. i.e. child, elderly, or someone who was disabled. [if you get my drift].

    And Jesus came to the earth, so its written to vindicate his fathers name!

    The problem Ive always had is this "Trinity theory"!!!!!! In most old "pagan" religions, a lot of "deities" had three entities. In the bible the actual word Trinity is never mentioned. So thats what confused me!

    A question I often brought up. if God came to earth and died, who was running things? that is if life cant exist when Gods not around????
    So i hope you dont mind me adding that one on thir?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocco View Post
    The problem Ive always had is this "Trinity theory"!!!!!! In most old "pagan" religions, a lot of "deities" had three entities. In the bible the actual word Trinity is never mentioned. So thats what confused me!
    I always heard of it as 'the holy trinity', the father, the son and the holy ghost. That is why some Islam say that Christianity is polytheist.

    Many pagan religions have sacrifice and resurrection in their beliefs, long before Chrisitanity. It is a well established idea.

    In my own world, this refers to what dies so we can live, and then grows again or is born next year. Nature's cycle, in other words.

    So i hope you dont mind me adding that one on thir?
    Not at all. Let's get our thoughts sorted out :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by thir View Post
    I always heard of it as 'the holy trinity', the father, the son and the holy ghost. That is why some Islam say that Christianity is polytheist.
    Technically, these are considered three "aspects" of the one God. When the early Christians decided that Jesus had to be divine, they had to find a way to make him so without actually devolving into polytheism, so they developed this Trinity idea. Yeah, it sounds silly. You have to take it on faith!

    Many pagan religions have sacrifice and resurrection in their beliefs, long before Chrisitanity. It is a well established idea.
    Many other things which supposedly made Jesus unique were also relatively common among pagan religions at the time or before Christianity, including the virgin birth. This is one of the reasons why religious scholars are questioning the existence of Jesus as a real person.

    In my own world, this refers to what dies so we can live, and then grows again or is born next year. Nature's cycle, in other words.
    The resurrection stories of the pagans were very common before the time of Jesus, too. They all derive from the rebirth of spring after the death of winter.
    "A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche

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