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thir Easter Questions 04-04-2012, 01:15 AM
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sub_sequent Q: how could a blood... 04-05-2012, 02:06 AM
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thir Original sin being the apple?... 04-08-2012, 05:56 AM
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ksst Original sin- was eating the... 04-09-2012, 06:06 PM
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    Original sin- was eating the apple after God said leave it alone. Or sex. You know, apples and sex sometimes get confused. There was temptation, and the snake, being very phallic and all, tempted Eve. Before the apple, they were naked and happy in the garden. After the apple, which Eve shared with Adam, thus tempting him as well, they were naked and ashamed, and were kicked out of the garden. Of course, there were no apples in biblical times in those lands, so really it was some other fruit...

    It does get kind of kooky, apologies to devout Christians, but really....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ksst View Post
    Original sin- was eating the apple after God said leave it alone. Or sex.
    No, the sin was in fashioning coverings from fig leaves to hide their genitalia. Because God just LOVES him some good genitalia!
    "A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche

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    Quote Originally Posted by ksst View Post
    Original sin- was eating the apple after God said leave it alone. Or sex. You know, apples and sex sometimes get confused. There was temptation, and the snake, being very phallic and all, tempted Eve. Before the apple, they were naked and happy in the garden. After the apple, which Eve shared with Adam, thus tempting him as well, they were naked and ashamed, and were kicked out of the garden. Of course, there were no apples in biblical times in those lands, so really it was some other fruit...

    It does get kind of kooky, apologies to devout Christians, but really....

    You can thank the western medieval artists for the apple bit ... all the early Bibles reference is a "fruit". Some theologians theorize that because fig leafs are mentioned it may have been a fig, others believe it was perhaps grapes.

    All in all as far as mythological stories go I personally don't see it as any more or less "kooky" than any other cultures creation stories.
    When love beckons to you, follow him,Though his ways are hard and steep. And when his wings enfold you yield to him, Though the sword hidden among his pinions may wound thee
    KAHLIL GIBRAN, The Prophet

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    Quote Originally Posted by denuseri View Post
    You can thank the western medieval artists for the apple bit ... all the early Bibles reference is a "fruit". Some theologians theorize that because fig leafs are mentioned it may have been a fig, others believe it was perhaps grapes.
    Apples seem to have magical or mythical meanings, so maybe natural that it was chosen. I personally do not think the details are important.

    All in all as far as mythological stories go I personally don't see it as any more or less "kooky" than any other cultures creation stories.
    Is it a creation story? Many cultures have creation stories, naturally enough, but this one is an original sin story, not the same things IMO.

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