Male discrimination?

[lucy]

alimony and child support are different.child support goes to children, alimony is considered "spousal support," and is awarded in a divorce and there are no children, and it is to be paid typically until the receiving partner remarries. child support only goes until the child is 18. some divorce settlements require both to be paid.

Ah, ok. We use the expression "alimony" both for spousal and child support.
Yeah, well, again: That of course is wrong. If a couple here divorces and both work 100% nobody has to pay anything. OUr pension system tends to fuck women who took time off from work to care about children (or those who never worked because of children) up their ass, though.
Also, this puts way too much emphasis on the institution of marriage.

On the other hand, if there are children, child support doesn't end here when the child is 18, but when it has finished it's education. Makes sense to me.

[thir]

alimony and child support are different.child support goes to children, alimony is considered "spousal support," and is awarded in a divorce and there are no children, and it is to be paid typically until the receiving partner remarries. child support only goes until the child is 18. some divorce settlements require both to be paid.

I thought alimony was something you had even after a second marriage - which I found weird. Admittedly based on films - not any read fact.

Do these laws not take into consideration how the marriage was? I mean, if one spouse has mostly worked at home, she might be badly situated to get a job. In DK alimony is not self-evident, you can get it you can show the neccesity, and it is taken up on a regular basis, both with respect to what one part needs, but also with respect to what the other part can pay.

[thir]

OUr pension system tends to fuck women who took time off from work to care about children (or those who never worked because of children) up their ass, though.
Also, this puts way too much emphasis on the institution of marriage.

Same in UK. In DK you have the same pension if you have lived for 40 years in the country, after you have turned 18. So, marriage or working life is not relevant.

On the other hand, if there are children, child support doesn't end here when the child is 18, but when it has finished it's education. Makes sense to me.

Yes.

[lucy]

and i didnt mean that there'smore spending on women because they are already in college: there are more subsidies and grants available for women than men

Do you know why? And who pays those subsidies and grants? I know that there's no gender difference here when it comes to subsidies and grants, but Switzerland's educational system is (luckily) very different from the one in the US.

[js207]

The school I went to was all male until the year before I started, phasing them in (senior girls only at first, juniors later) so that my year was the last to get girls (for the first 3 of my 5 years there, it was all male).

Single sex schools probably do have advantages in many respects - academic results I suspect, as well as eliminating an obvious distraction for most of the students. On the other hand, particularly in boarding schools like mine was, I'm sure lack of exposure to the opposite sex is a disadvantage in social development. Maybe that's why I ended up all sick and twisted hanging out on sites like this ;-P

Was that to make room for women? In that case, don't you think it is fair to share the time?

No, it wasn't to free up room - it was because the rule was interpreted as requiring exactly the same level of funding - so if 60 guys who want to play football get a $10,000 budget for equipment etc, the 3 girls who want to play have to get the same resources - despite that being absurd and impractical. It's exactly the mistake you mentioned earlier, confusing fairness with identical results, so they would have to spend as much on a tiny or even non-existent women's sport as on the men's one with actual people involved.

[StrictMasterD]

The Laws in the US can vary. some couple who Divorce here WAiver Alomony and in the case no kids are involed, no child support
Plus with Alomonu it is only piad until the person receiving it get remarried then it is ended it is not a life long Financial arragmeent unles that spouse simply decides to stay simple o acceptthe Alomny and with Childsuport, that end at either 18 or 21 dependon on the laws in that state, in other woeds, child suport in the United State is only payable while the child is a Minor once they reach adult hood by age that support stops, whether they have a job or not and in the Case of a DEath and Eath Benefits to a Minor that ends upon their 18th or 21st birthday dependong pn the age of consent in that state

[Thorne]

they got rushed off the titanic first, and are usually given preferential treatment even now in disasters

Just ran across this. Seems "women and children first" isn't as common as some think!