Tricking your sub into getting something else.

[Ocean_Soul]

An "open minded" Dom and sub gernerally have a closer "bond" and are happy to engage in all activities if the end result is to please - Master

So close of a bond in fact that you tend to "tire of subs quickly" and "rotate them around"?

Your messages could very well be genuine jiggy I'm open to that possibility. However if you're wondering why you aren't really taken 100% seriously it's because when confronted with obvious problems instead of working to help anyone understand your relationships you simply add another seemingly pseudo-dom soundbite that really don't make much sense to many of us who are actively involved in the lifestyle.

Maybe many of us are just misunderstanding you. A little clarification would go a long way to correcting that.

[MajesticFae]

I won't engage in flaming. Feel free to believe if you want............if you don't no probs.

An "open minded" Dom and sub gernerally have a closer "bond" and are happy to engage in all activities if the end result is to please - Master

Something to think about and look outside the "box"

Once again thanks for the nice PM's from BM's who have told me to ignore the flamers here.

Most subs have limits and you have to know the limits of that sub. Aren't we technically all openminded since we're into BDSM? By the way you've been talking your idea of open minded seems to be along the lines of TPE (Total Power Exchange) where the sub gives up her safe words and puts her trust completely into the Dom.

Personally, I think the way you play isn't SSC. I think that you're being dishonest with your submissives and possibly abusing them with your "trickery." I can't say for sure because I don't know your submissives, nor do I know you. We subs put a lot of trust into our Doms and if you're going through submissives like a fat kid goes through cake, well, something isn't right there.

And I agree with Tessa, we're not flaming. We're giving our honest opinions and treating you with respect.

[TeddyBearGaySlave]

Well, my former master often lied to me about getting that chastity belt of me. I felt used and slutty afterwards, but he did it in a (for a sub) very satisfying way. Those mind games work great for me. Instead of getting your reward you get another punishment.

Though I see a danger in overusing that and thus making the slave "resistent" to that kind of surprise/disappointment.

[Sir_Russell]

Tricking my morgan would be very dishonorable act by me. How could she respect me or honor me if I am that disreputable. I know her limits and push them to find out if they are real or just wants that frighten her. I expect obedience from her and willingly do her assigned task and even requests of mine. To lie or trick her is beneath me.

[Tasker]

To lie and trick goes against the foundations of everything I have learned in my short time in the lifestyle. I honestly can not see how anyone could retain any sort of trust if treated otherwise.

[hispleasure]

I have this great trick I have played over the years with different subs...............after having a sub suck my cock, get deep throated etc instead of rewarding them with my cum ....I piss down their throats instead and tell them it was cause i was displeased with their BJ skills

Keeps em coming back for more

Jiggy,

You'd piss down my throat ONCE and then I would probably spit it at you. I think that is quite distasteful and offensive (unless your sub KNEW that you were going to do it) and I suspect she didn't as you mention "tricking" her. If it wasn't good enough...why did you cum?

It would completely destroy the trust I have with My Sir. Our relationship is based on communication and understanding of what is acceptible to US. If he ever had to TRICK me, I'd also question his trust in me.

Hispleasure

[hispleasure]

I do believe that jiggy is getting just what he wants from all this. ~sighs~

Despite jiggy's intent, it is great to see that our wonderful little community has many intelligent, thoughtful people who truly know what's good and right about Dominance and submission. And that is something to be happy about.

tessa

I must agree with tessa, this Jiggy must have come here to get the reactions he indeed has. I've considered what he said in his first post and it absolutely repulses me to think that My Sir would do such a detestful thing to me (the tricking..although the act of pissing down her throught is rather detestful too)

It is amazing to see what an intelligent and intellectual group we are here. Truely we respect and understand the gift of Domination and submission. Indded that is somthing to be happy about!

His pleasure

[moonlight]

A sub should never be "tricked" into anything unless it is okay with them.
Tricking a sub will make the sub unable to trust the Dom and the relationship will not be able to build. Trust is most important.
i have been tricked and misled before and could not bring myself to trust that particular Dom who misled me, so the relationship could never build into something more.

[Seri]

I agree, even if it's an innocent trick, a sub will look for future deceit and possibly find somewhere there was no ill will in the first place. Also, with a sub that may have been hurt from a previous relationship might already be paranoid, and further deceit could ruin a relationship that might have blossomed into a glorious thing.

[ashtonDs]

I know this in in the archive but I just had a rather interesting thought.

there is a dom who says that at the end of a blowjob he pees in the subs mouth instead of cumming.

If I am remembering my biology right that is impossible.

1) Human reproductive systems want to do only one thing...reproduce.

2) When sexual stimulation is being given the waste disposal system is shut down. Our biology does not want sperm contaminated with piss.

3) If he is getting a bj, his urinary equipment is temporarily shut down to allow the delivery of clean sperm.

So,

Changing right at the last second is not possible. In fact when oral stimulation gave him an erection, his urinary system is already on standby...

Therefore

His OP is a work of fiction.

[hotbod]

I think ashton is wrong it is possible to piss with a hard on. The Op never said that he came. he said he tricked the sub into thinking he was going to to cum.

Read the original OP properly