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    Armbinder difficulty

    I've had difficulty enduring a single-sleeve armbinder, experiencing numbness in my hands after only a few minutes.

    I would appreciate your advice and experiences on these questions:

    1. Is it likely that just having it laced a little looser will help a lot?
    2. Is an armbinder something one 'can get better at'? It's a very unfamiliar position for my arms to be held back so extremely, might my body adjust with practice?
    3. Am I just worrying too much? I can certainly handle the numbness, and the 'pins and needles' afterwards, but I worry about the possibility of acual damage. So, how long can you endure such numbness/lack of proper circulation, without risking genuine harm?

    Many thanks for your reply...

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    Quote Originally Posted by caged
    I've had difficulty enduring a single-sleeve armbinder, experiencing numbness in my hands after only a few minutes.

    I would appreciate your advice and experiences on these questions:

    1. Is it likely that just having it laced a little looser will help a lot?
    2. Is an armbinder something one 'can get better at'? It's a very unfamiliar position for my arms to be held back so extremely, might my body adjust with practice?
    3. Am I just worrying too much? I can certainly handle the numbness, and the 'pins and needles' afterwards, but I worry about the possibility of acual damage. So, how long can you endure such numbness/lack of proper circulation, without risking genuine harm?

    Many thanks for your reply...
    I would definitely loosen them and probably quite a bit at first. You can build up a tolerance for this kind of bondage, but you should take it slow. Your worries aren't unfounded either. A major artery passes very close to the skin just above and below the elbows, and bondage that's too tight can put pressure on it. When that happens, numbness can spread rapidly throughout the arms, followed by pain. Repetition can cause permanent damage to your tissue, circulation, and nerves. So if you're experiencing numbness you should loosen up the armbinder until you don't.
    Remember yourselves.


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    I don't believe you are worrying too much caged- pins & needles & numbness are indicators of loss of circulation & possible pinched nerves.

    As soon you notice that, it's time to be freed, & get the circulation going again.

    A good way to tell is to press a fingernail into a finger on the affected limb & look for the skin colour- if it stays white for more than a few seconds you could certainly be doing damage.

    It is very very easy to suffer permanent damage doing this sort of thing- I would urge any Dom/me or prospective Dom/me to do a comprehensive first aid course.

    I have no experience with armbinders, but any bondage that involves binding the elbows needs to be done carefully. Elbows don't naturally go together behind one's back- it takes great flexibility, a young fit body and/or much practice.

    Do you stretch before bondage? (there's a line for you....) That is essential.
    Just take it gradually, like any form of play, eventually those elbows will get used to it. Don't push it- it's meant to be fun, eh?

    I must stress these comments are only my opinion, from my experiences. I have done plenty of first aid training though & I most certainly know how easy it is to damage the human body. It can sneak up on you gradually or happen overnight.

    Take care please, & don't forget to have fun!

    Tojo
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