what is up with telling the truth...?????

[rooshoe]

Most understandable.. and perhaps there is a difference between "not telling everything" and lying?

IMO, omission of truth is on par with lying. "Editing" certain events/facts and leaving things out can cause someone to behave differently, as does outright changing of facts. Let's say the dog ate all the cookies in the cookie jar - that's one thing. But if the dog ate all the cookies *after* you'd taken several that you weren't supposed to have... well, the cookies are still gone, but you have much more culpability in the second version. Like i said, i think that omission of fact is still lying.

Well, you don't. Also... each has his own truth..
However... thrall refers to something apparently typical for submissives.. that you simply tell.. "ratting yourself out" as she so eloquently puts it

Put my name down on that list too - i have a miserable time lying. I'd rather just come out with my screw-up and get it over with instead of worrying about being "discovered" and trying to cover up all traces of what I've done/not done. It's not worth the energy, guilt, or breach of trust that it may cause.

I just have to ask. If you truly would rather hear the truth what makes you think that the same isn't true for your customers? I don't know what you do but if I were told a lie by a salesperson and later found out about that lie I'd be pissed as hell and never use his/her products again.

Although I am not familiar with what Logic1 does specifically, i too have worked in sales, and sometimes it's just easier to simplify things for the customer by lying rather than explain tons of things they really don't need to know that will most likely confuse and stress them out. (And that's not me being arrogant or an elitist, that's me being experienced and knowing when someone really doesn't need to know something.) I've also worked in retail and we had a member card program, But people, being people, would sometimes forget their membership cards and sometimes the number look-up wouldn't find their number. Of course, they would ask, "Why don't you have my member number in the system?" I frequently found it easier to tell them that our server was having "issues" rather than tell them that the idiots at corporate probably hadn't input the information from their application correctly, if they did it at all... I'd still give them the member discount and i'd gently remind them to bring their card next time ('cause the number look-up was never intended to be used instead of the card, anyway). For me, that's an instance where the truth really isn't necessary and can even be a p.i.t.a.