Quote Originally Posted by thir View Post
some have the profile of seeing how much the sub, not neccesarily into pain at all, can and will take for their Master/Mistress?

I find this to be a fascinating idea. The submissive willing to see "how much they can take" for their dominant. Are there those, though, who actually get off on pain? I mean...I know there are masochists but do they physically derive pleasure from pain (and in that case, do they take anesthesia for dental procedures?) or is it more that they take pleasure from the pleasure they see in their dominant when they've "taken" a significant amount of pain? What is the feeling the submissive receives? Physical pleasure? Is it a feeling of "see how tough I am?" ?