Quote Originally Posted by ceegee{Benz} View Post
Well I started the post so heres what I think

A TRUE submissive acts on behalf of her Master or awaits her Master's commands.
One who tops from the bottom has pre conceived ideas.
In other words is more interested in getting her rocks off for enjoyment rather then serving or being pleasing for her Master.
This does not make it wrong just different strokes for different people.
I personally would call it kink not D/s and definatly not BDSM.

Just remember it is the Master who has the final say.

Perhaps a true master would be able to condition a submissive in the behavior patterns he desires...so that there would be no question about "the final say."

I never have a preconcieved idea that I will go tftb on him...it does not mean I do not want to please him...we definately have a bdsm relationship with D/s spice (not slavery, just nature) and the D/s roles do change back and forth...in my life, I have met few folks who were effectively dominant all the time...titles aside, honestly, unless there is abject submission, by your definition wouldn't any idea a "slave" has, (aside from what the Master allows) be topping from the bottom???

Seems boring to me. No challenge. I mean, is it truly satifying to have a submissive with no spirit of their own? But hey, I know that's just me.

How can you say it is not sm if someone tfb and still comes out nicely bruised?