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    unless I missed something in this thread somewhere I am trying to figure out how the subject or Gravity was introduced??

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkemse View Post
    unless I missed something in this thread somewhere I am trying to figure out how the subject or Gravity was introduced??
    Ummmm ... ok, I am suggesting that conventional scientific theories are not fact until proven to be fact. If they cannot be proved then a scientific theory is no more valid than any other kind - such as the assertion by certain religious movements that Creationism is just as valid as the Darwinian theory of evolution. This was rebuffed by Thorne so I moved the talk on to planetary evolution.

    Ozme then put me on the spot by daring me to deny the existence of gravity, and my response is, how can I deny what I do not know?

    How is this connected with the main theme of the discussion? Well, I don't think any one theory should be taught to the exclusion of other competing theories. Only when all science is provable can we say "We know the mind of God" and until then we have to allow that, maybe, there are things beyond the power of science to explain, ever. And ... again, maybe ... at the Second Coming, we shall understand what science never could.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ThisYouWillDo View Post
    When you find a really big Black Hole, it blows too!
    LOL!! Brilliant!
    "A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThisYouWillDo View Post
    Ozme then put me on the spot by daring me to deny the existence of gravity, and my response is, how can I deny what I do not know?
    I did not dare you to deny the existence of gravity. I made the apparently foolish presumption that you would agree that gravity exists. That something appears to hold us to the earth.

    I was using gravity to refute your statement that if we don't know how something works it can only be a theory...

    You said earlier that evolution is a theory because we don't know exactly how it works. So I used gravity as a comparison. Pointed out that there are even Laws of Gravity... measurable things we can definitively state about the effects. And that the Theory of Gravity is our attempt to figure out how it works.

    Yes, the thread is about Teaching Bible Studies in Public Schools.
    You brought up Evolution and Creationism and took it "off topic".

    I was reacting to your topic change. Not discussing gravity.

    Just arguing the concept of 'theory' because I, again, assumed we were about to expand the conversation to include evolution v. creationism (or intelligent design.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by mkemse View Post
    unless I missed something in this thread somewhere I am trying to figure out how the subject or Gravity was introduced??
    LOL! I'm not quite sure myself, now that you mention it. But that's the beauty of these kinds of threads. You can wander all over the place while still following the general direction of the original topic. That's where the fun is!
    "A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche

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