Is cyber cheating

[annie]

The matter remains that he is unhappy and she does not care, whatever there was before, and whoever is to blame for it.

How do you know she doesn't care? Is she posting in this thread and it is being missed? Or could it be that new1 is so hurt that no matter what she does/says he is looking only at his hurt and anger and discounting anything she does to show that she cares? Just because she cheated may not mean she doesn't care. As I stated before, we are hearing only ONE side of this.

and for my comment about everybody can change it takes time well i serpose that did sound a little one sided

but i have not met man or woman that breaths that if there partner asked them to go out choose them, some little lace outfit ,leather or what ever floats there boat then tells them they can tie them up and have there way with them they would not jump at the chance, i was just saying there is a spark in all of us

I am with D insofar as I don´t actually believe into vanilla people - I think everybody has hidden fantasies one way or another.

I would agree as well that everyone has hidden fantasies... BUT that doesn't mean that some will ever share those fantasies with another human being. Some people never get comfortable and secure enough with themselves to share that part. No matter what the other partner does. Therefore some will never change, at least not on that subject, based on their up bringing, social conditioning, own insecurities, etc.