Does the content of my stories disturb people in the BDSM scene?

[Bellicosa]

I enjoy reading non-consensual type stories a lot more than those stories of "well, he was raping her, but then she decided she really liked it five minutes in." It's not that those stories can't be good too, but...man, it's a fantasy. My fantasy doesn't have to be PC. BDSM is, for most people, about dominance and submission, and rape is the ultimate way to act that out. Of course it's a terrible thing in real life, and of course I wouldn't want to be raped. But I also probably wouldn't really enjoy killing orcs with a sword, and I sure do like me some Lord of the Rings.

Now, some stories do go a bit far, I think, in terms of the absolute degradation of women. And let's not even get into some of the racist crap. But these are rare, and the common thread is that they are badly written. As long as the writing is good, it is still a bit of art like any story, playing off of human emotions. I've had forced sex fantasies since I was 12 years old; if that doesn't make me a sick human being than it doesn't make you one either.

[Razor7826]

Now, some stories do go a bit far, I think, in terms of the absolute degradation of women.

But what constitutes going too far? My 'A Tape' series (the final part (4) of which should be getting posted any day now) is pretty evil in terms of what the mother and daughter have to go through. And then there's things like my "Sister of Two" story in my Bad End series, where part of the emotional hook is that she's fighting for money to help her younger siblings but fails. So, not only do my stories focus on the emotions of the slave themselves, but also in their family members dealing with the loss. Does anyone think that bringing up the loss a parent's pain about the loss of their daughter into slavery is going too far? Or, is it just senseless depictions of violence that upset you?

Please, I'm very curious in understanding where people draw the line, and what people like about stories that focus on emotional trauma and completely hopeless endings.

(And, it isn't just bad endings for women that I'm interested in. I have some subby tendencies in me, as well, that I might be exploring in some future stories.)

[damyanti]

But what constitutes going too far?

Please, I'm very curious in understanding where people draw the line, and what people like about stories that focus on emotional trauma and completely hopeless endings.

What constitutes going too far...for me...are snuff and human chattel stories and extreme of the extreme mutilation and torture stories (think medieval "witch" torture stories). Those I cant stomach at all.

With everything else it depends on how well it is written. And not all serve the same purpose. Some I read from purely artistic point of view...some are very life like and play out what I would want done to me...some are completely unrealistic, but they still turn me on...some, I don't mind, but they do absolutely nothing for me...some make me go "yuck" or "ouch", but whatever turns you on. Point is...as long as you draw the distinct line between fantasy and reality you are good, all is good...even shrinks always say that to fantasize is a healthy outlet...90% of what I read I wouldn't want, or am too much of a wuss to ever agree, to have it done in reality (some are even hard limits).

Rape stories...for me personally fall into "I don't mind, but they do absolutely nothing for me" category;...being forced...being over powered...yes, oh yes, but rape stories...I do get the appeal intellectually, but they leave me bland. That however is just me, its one of the most common fantasies (or at least thats what they say in studies), and a lot of women get off on it.

I don't like depressing, hopeless realism when it comes to literature in general. I do appreciate it from intellectual point of view, but its not something I enjoy reading. If I want depressing, I watch the news...there (in reality) I can deal with it, but not in fiction. A lot of it has to do with the fact that the good chunk of my formative years was spent in country torn by war, in situations like that you are focused on survival, hopelessness is a luxury you cant afford when you have people depending on you. I do have my dark mood days, but giving up (in spirit) is a foreign concept to me.