Question about "true" submissivness

[Un-Touched]

Speaking as a Dom, I would never ask that of my sub. I feel it shows a lack of respect for them as well as myself. I am looking for a submissive, not a mindless body that I could program to think and act as I want.

Besides what fun is there if your sub did everything you asked?

[Jaymin01]

Speaking as a Dom, I would never ask that of my sub. I feel it shows a lack of respect for them as well as myself. I am looking for a submissive, not a mindless body that I could program to think and act as I want.

Besides what fun is there if your sub did everything you asked?

As a Dom, I agree completely. It just so happens that My rl sub and I do agree on political points of view, but if we didn't I would not demand that she took on my point of view, I would do my best to "convert" her to my point of view though. True Dominants want subs/slaves with their own minds, perversions, quirks, and personalities. If they don't have that, how else can we as Dominants grow.

[SnickerKitten]

I'm definately going to have to agree with the rest here and since Ragoczy isn't home to speak for himself I'll go ahead and chip in that he agrees, too.

There, let whoever told you that a "real" sub can't have their own opinions chew on this "real" sub deciding what her Dominant's opinion is!!

Mwuhahahahaa!!

Seriously, though, a sub is a glorious treasure and part of that sub is his or her mind. If a dominant weren't willing to accept and cherish my mind as an integral part of my package then that's not a dominant that is worth my time.

Now, if that was a "sub" that was telling you that, I'd be happy to introduce her to my brother. He's not a dominant (that I know of) but he sure does have a thing for doormats!

-kitten

[Ragoczy]

I'm definately going to have to agree with the rest here and since Ragoczy isn't home to speak for himself I'll go ahead and chip in that he agrees, too.

There, let whoever told you that a "real" sub can't have their own opinions chew on this "real" sub deciding what her Dominant's opinion is!!

Mwuhahahahaa!!

Seriously, though, a sub is a glorious treasure and part of that sub is his or her mind. If a dominant weren't willing to accept and cherish my mind as an integral part of my package then that's not a dominant that is worth my time.

Now, if that was a "sub" that was telling you that, I'd be happy to introduce her to my brother. He's not a dominant (that I know of) but he sure does have a thing for doormats!

-kitten

My kitten is absolutely correct on what my opinion is.

I do have to admit that this is the most bizarre "you're not a real submissive because..." that I've ever heard.

How, exactly, is one supposed to just arbitrarily change an opinion/belief/viewpoint? I mean, it's possible to give it lip-service, but inside wouldn't you be screaming "Wrong!"? Which wouldn't really be changing the view, so, by this "dominant's" definition, no one can be a "real" submissive.