mind altering?

[Ozme52]

If you're doing edgy stuff, diminished capacity can be dangerous.

The top can make a mistake. The bottom can fail to realize they've been physically injured.

I'd stay away from it.

[DowntownAmber]

If you're doing edgy stuff, diminished capacity can be dangerous.

The top can make a mistake. The bottom can fail to realize they've been physically injured.

I'd stay away from it.

That's why we have Doms, always about the safety.

[jeanne]

I can only speak for alcohol here, and I must say a drink or two doesn't seem to hurt anything. In fact, it tends to wipe out the annoying ADD litany of useless thoughts in my head and lets me go right to the, erm, more interesting ones...

Speaking as an alcoholic who's been sober for several years and has never engaged in any D/s activities while under the influence, let me say...

...it isn't necessary. Not one bit. If alcohol (or drugs) is what removes someone's inhibitions and allows them to enjoy themselves more fully, perhaps an examination of why that is so would be helpful. Believe me, D/s with an always clear head rocks. And what a charge for the Dom to know that His sober, rational submissive can be reduced to a babbling, begging, cumming, laughing, out-of-her-head sex toy through only His own efforts and influence.

If you're doing edgy stuff, diminished capacity can be dangerous.

The top can make a mistake. The bottom can fail to realize they've been physically injured.

I'd stay away from it.

Amen.

[DowntownAmber]

Speaking as an alcoholic who's been sober for several years and has never engaged in any D/s activities while under the influence, let me say...

...it isn't necessary. Not one bit. If alcohol (or drugs) is what removes someone's inhibitions and allows them to enjoy themselves more fully, perhaps an examination of why that is so would be helpful. Believe me, D/s with an always clear head rocks. And what a charge for the Dom to know that His sober, rational submissive can be reduced to a babbling, begging, cumming, laughing, out-of-her-head sex toy through only His own efforts and influence.

Necessary? No. You're right there. And if alcohol or another drug is the only way you can relax into BDSM activities? Yeah, that's a problem. Falling down drunkenness? Also, not attractive.

However, I'm still not convinced a couple of drinks is even remotely a problem.

It doesn't make BDSM any better or any worse, it's just a slightly different headspace for it.

[jeanne]

Necessary? No. You're right there. And if alcohol or another drug is the only way you can relax into BDSM activities? Yeah, that's a problem. Falling down drunkenness? Also, not attractive.

However, I'm still not convinced a couple of drinks is even remotely a problem.

It doesn't make BDSM any better or any worse, it's just a slightly different headspace for it.

I suppose, since I don't drink or anything else, that I don't understand the concept of 'different headspaces'. I only have one as a submissive...and find the delight and happiness lies in the process of falling further and further into it as well as the varying degrees of it.

Ah well...everyone's different, that's for sure!

[openwide]

If you're doing edgy stuff, diminished capacity can be dangerous.

The top can make a mistake. The bottom can fail to realize they've been physically injured.

I'd stay away from it.

For sure safety is a concern when involving substances. Obviously any blood play should never be combined with a drug that reduces your ability to clot. NSAIDs and alcohol included. I don't do blood stuff but accidents happen. Impaired decision making is also a concern.

It's a fine line, however. One too many and suddenly the pain to pleasure sensations don't seem to happen.

Good point Amber, certainly wouldn't want to diminish either of these!

If alcohol (or drugs) is what removes someone's inhibitions and allows them to enjoy themselves more fully, perhaps an examination of why that is so would be helpful.

You're right on here. I guess personally it's not about removing inhibitions but being in a different head space.

[DowntownAmber]

You're right on here. I guess personally it's not about removing inhibitions but being in a different head space.

Bingo.

[Ozme52]

For sure safety is a concern when involving substances. Obviously any blood play should never be combined with a drug that reduces your ability to clot. NSAIDs and alcohol included. I don't do blood stuff but accidents happen. Impaired decision making is also a concern.

I'm also thinking about "simple" things like motor control. Swinging a paddle and accidently letting it turn in your hand, and striking edge on. Deep tissue bruising is a concern. So is breaking or cracking bones, and the ass is awfully close to the spine...

Cutting and slipping.
Wax play and burning.
Bondage and not realizing circulation is cut off.

These and more require excellent coordination. Think about how hard "accuracy" sports are and how much harder they are inebrieated, even a little bit.

Now, elsewhere, I've said there's nothing wrong with domming under the influence, but also that such times are great for letting the sub serve and service. So, choose your scening wisely when drinking or smoking.

[shyslut]

I am new to playing. I get very very very nervous. Dom says im so jumpy, fidgety, shaky and rigid that i make him nervous lol So for me a few drinks and some time to just sit before beginning is a must. Def intend to do it without drinks in the future though